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Deborah-Leigh:
Hello pstrevnglstchrls

This is a excerpt from the teaching on the TWELVE GOD-GIVEN TRUTHS TO UNDERSTAND HIS WORD on the home page.

"None of the wicked shall understand; but the Wise shall understand" (Daniel 12:10)
 
TRUTH NUMBER 5[A] "It is the spirit that quickens [gives life]; the flesh profits nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are SPIRIT, and they are life" (John 6:63). "But this spoke He of the SPIRIT…" (John 7:39).[C] "And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the SPIRIT which IS the word of God" ( Eph. 6:17).Everything from Genesis to Revelation pertains to a higher SPIRITUAL meaning than the physical examples, parables, metaphors, allegories, stories and symbols in which they are written. "Let us make man in Our Image" (Gen. 1:26) are words of SPIRIT: "…Surely I come quickly…" (Rev. 22:20) are words of SPIRIT. God does not look like a six-foot man or a five-foot woman. Jesus comes quickly to us, not to the world.John tells us that: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God… and the Word was MADE FLESH… grace and truth came by Jesus Christ" (John 1:1, 14 & 17). God is not "flesh." Jesus had to be "made flesh." And then AS flesh, Jesus had to "grow and wax strong" (Luke 2:40). God does not "grow or wax strong," but Jesus "made flesh" had to grow and wax strong. Jesus also had to "overcome" (John 16:33). God does not need to overcome anything. Jesus had to "suffer" and "learn obedience" (Heb. 5:8). God does not suffer: God does not learn anything, seeing that God is all knowing (Isa. 46:10).Jesus was "troubled in His soul" (John 12:27). God is never troubled in HIS soul. Jesus got "weary" (John 4 6). God never gets weary (Isa. 40:28). Jesus became "exceeding sorrowful" (Matt. 26:38). God never sorrows. Jesus was famished after fasting for 40 days and nights. He was so "hungry" that he was ready to die (Matt. 4:2). God never gets hungry. God can never die of hunger. Jesus got very "thirsty" (John 19:28). God never gets thirsty. Jesus "wept" (John 11:35). God never weeps. Jesus was acquainted with "sickness" (Isa. 53:3). God never gets sick.How sad that many Christians believe that nothing bad ever happened to Jesus before His crucifixion. If it were not for God IN Jesus, Jesus would have been as helpless as a newborn baby. In fact, Jesus said with all humility and truth: "I can of Mine Own Self do nothing…" (John 5:30).Jesus Christ is our Example of just how man (mankind) is to "be made into the Image of God." Jesus is our example, our way, and our destiny: "For whom He did foreknow, [that’s US, and eventually all humanity, I Cor. 15:28], He also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the Firstborn among many brethren" (Rom. 8:29).Jesus was made a physical man so that He could show us the way to the spirit God.And so it was that this Jesus, in the flesh, who became human, became a man of flesh, was conformed into the spiritual "Image of God," and spoke to us through His "words of spirit." It is Jesus Who "was the word of God" back in Genesis, Who did the speaking when "…God [the Word] said, Let there be light" (Gen. 1:3). It was "the word" in Genesis 1:26 Who said: "Make will We humanity in Our Image…" (Concordant Version). What kind of words were those words, which The Word spoke back there in the garden? Why they were the words of Jesus, and Jesus plainly tells us that His words "ARE SPIRIT" (John 6:63). "And creating is God humanity in His [spiritual] Image. In the Image of God He creates it. Male and female He [spiritually] creates them" Gen. 1:27). Why of course, that is why Paul teaches us that we are, "…to be conformed to the Image of His Son." Jesus now is in the very spiritual image of God, just as He was prior to being emptied into human flesh, in the form of a servant:"And now, O Father, GLORIFY You Me with Thine Own Self with the glory which I HAD WITH YOU BEFORE THE WORLD WAS" (John 17:5).If mankind is not in the literal, physical image of God, then what, pray tell, does God look like? "To whom then will you liken Me, or shall I be equal? Says the Holy One… I am the Lord, and there is none else, there is no God beside Me… I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace and create evil: I the Lord do all these things… I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even My hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded… To whom will you like Me, and make Me equal, and compare Me, that we may be like?" (Isa. 40:25; 45:5, 7, 12; 46:5)"God is not a MAN…" (Num. 23:19), regardless of how many millions of theologians want to make God into the image of sinful man. God is not in our image: neither are we yet in His Image.Obviously the words that Jesus spoke were "spirit," seeing that His very words came from GOD, Who IS SPIRIT: "For He [Jesus] Whom God has sent speaks the WORDS OF God, for God gives not the SPIRIT by measure unto Him" (John 3:34).Did Jesus give His Apostles the power to speak words of SPIRIT? Yes, He did: "And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man’s wisdom, but in the demonstration of the SPIRIT and of power" (I Cor. 2:4)."The spirit of the Lord spoke by me, and His word was in my tongue" (II Sam. 23:2). "According to the word that I did covenant with you when ye came out of Egypt, so My spirit remains among you; fear ye not" (Haggai 2:5)."For to one is given by the spirit the word of wisdom: to another the word of knowledge by the same spirit" (I Cor. 12:8)."And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the spirit, which is the word of God" (Eph. 6:17).And we too are to speak with these same "words of SPIRIT""For it is not you that speak, but the spirit of your Father which speaks [words of spirit] in you" (Matt. 10:20).And of course the same thing was true for Christ:"…the word which you hear is not Mine, but the Father’s [God is spirit] which sent me" (John 14:24).Now then, how did Jesus teach the multitudes, ALWAYS? In parables: "All these things spoke Jesus unto the multitudes in parable; and without a parable spoke He not unto them" (Matt. 13:34; Mark 4:33-34; John 10:6; 16:25). Parables are "words of spirit."The day that we fail to believe Jesus when He tells us that His words "are SPIRIT," is the day that we will fail to understand anything spiritual. The words of Jesus are not to be taken literally, physically, materially, carnally. All of Jesus’ teachings are SPIRITUAL. I will keep this section short, as this principle overlaps with all of the rest of the principles.

It is a valuable exercise to learn the rest of the principles. I for one, am still learning! :D

Arcturus :)

hillsbororiver:
This idea of language not being a complete or even an effective tool of communication has been pesented here and numerous other places as well as through history, what standard should "spiritual communications be discerned?"

Isa 8:20  To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

In Isa 30 it is stated;

Isa 30:8  Now go, write it before them in a table, and note it in a book, that it may be for the time to come forever and ever:
 
Isa 30:9  That this is a rebellious people, lying children, children that will not hear the law of the LORD:
 
Isa 30:10  Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits:


How easy would it be to be deceived by Satan if we only used "feelings" as a guide?

2Co 11:14  And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
 
2Co 11:15  Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

How convincing are the arguments of the deceiver?

Mat 24:24  For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

There are many examples where it is not a suggestion or merely implied to write these things which the Lord speaks, but COMMANDED. I will end this post with one last verse.

1Co 10:11  Now all these things happened unto them for examples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.

His Peace and Wisdom to you,

Joe

P.S. If anyone is interested in searching this deeper, do an E-Sword word search using "written" and another search "write" be sure to bring a lunch the results are quite extensive.
 

Layla:
Hi Joe - this is an excellent post.  An excellent reminder. 


--- Quote ---what standard should "spiritual communications be discerned?"

Isa 8:20  To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
--- End quote ---


--- Quote ---Isa 30:9  That this is a rebellious people, lying children, children that will not hear the law of the LORD:
--- End quote ---

Unfortunately, most of the members of the body (myself included) are ignorant of the law.  Jesus Christ our Lord fulfilled the law and if we are to be found in Him then the righteousness of the law will be fulfilled in us.

Rom 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.

Rom 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

In order to come out of that ignorance we need to study the law (not the letter of the law which is unto sin and death) but the Spirit of the Law which is unto Life.  When we are no longer ignorant of the law, then through the Spirit of Christ we are able to apply it to all that we say and do (righteous judgment).

Thank you Joe for this post  ;)  It was very timely for me.

Peace,
Layla

pstrevnglstchrls:
You know it is an intresting concept that when Jesus  spoke parables that the Pharisees got together in groups but yet the limited disciples
went to Jesus. The Pharisees held meetings to try to figure out what Jesus said, and never knew yet the ignorant fools the disciples went to jesus, I like the way in the scripture say 1 Corinthians 3:18 Let no man decieve himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool,that he may be wise. If you get two smart people together and they start talking no one is learning because they are both talking, is it not funny that people are telling God what his word means instead of listening to Him as to what his words mean.
Just like the pharisees smart guys talking to each other and knowing nothing, discioles go to the one that spoke and asked him. You know if everyone went to God and recieved his understand then we would all speak the same thing the truth in Love. Intresting thing when people use scripture to prove their point and yet God just spoke truth, Truth needs not to be convinced if noone believed truth it would not turn into a lie, Jesus said I am the way the truth and the life. Jesus is the word.

Layla:
Hi Pst

I loved the observation of the gathering of the Pharisees in comparison to the Disciples!


--- Quote ---You know if everyone went to God and recieved his understand then we would all speak the same thing the truth in Love.
--- End quote ---

Amen.   

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