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indianabob:
Hi Friend Ricky,

I don't want to get into a debate about Genesis, but I think we can use BT articles to show that God is a planner who always accomplishes ALL His will for mankind. Often God does not immediately share His plans with His creation, so we tend to guess what God has in mind and everyone has their own way of seeing things. That's one of the advantages of BT because Ray Smith took the time and effort to try to answer all possible question within the scope of scripture and what God's spirit gave him.

Just a couple of personal comments if you please.
I don't believe that Cain was kicked out of the paradise of EDEN. Adam and Eve were sent out before they had children.
Cain on the other hand was exiled from his parents homeland or area and allowed to start over in another place. That doesn't prove that he couldn't visit again years later. There was no one to keep him out and God warned his relatives not to kill him.

As far as where he got his wife, we don't know how old Cain and Able were when the murder occurred. People lived for centuries back then and it may be supposed that people, especially men, retained the ability to reproduce for centuries as well. Therefore the people of 'NOD' may have been the direct descendants of Adam and Eve.
NOTE: the time gap between Gen 4:16 and 4:17 could have been decades.
The scripture mentions this event only to lead us to understand that ENOCH was the heir of Cain. And that there were by then enough people to require the building of a CITY. So that could be several hundred at least.

I think it is quite apparent that Adam and Eve had girls. It isn't necessary to spell it out. No girls, no babies.
We seem to have quite a lot of misunderstanding regarding incest. Perhaps we can explore that more carefully.

I don't agree that God enforces man's incest laws among God's people. In any case there would not have been any genetic reason to prohibit reproduction between siblings back then. The gene structure was fresh and perfect.

I don't believe that God prohibits alcohol, medicine drugs, large sweet drinks or inhaling smoke. These are men's rules and have nothing to do with God's leading of His people into righteousness.

Let's discuss these matters carefully and see what we can learn.

Respectfully, Indiana bob

Ricky:
Hi Bob, Bible says God created, formed, whatever, man and the beast on the 6th day. Man must be 230 million years old then. Dinosaurs go back that far, are they not considered to be the beast as well, how could this be possible. It took 230 million years for man to be where he is at today ? Something is not right here with this. Man could not have been here with the dinosaurs, I can't even outrun my dog let alone a Dino.

indianabob:
Good morning Ricky,
You make a good point about being able to outrun Dino, but I only have to outrun the guy behind me, RIGHT?

However, please remember that the age of Dinosaurs is PURE speculation.
Also the published personality/nature of dinosaurs is speculation. Science just doesn't know....
Consider the little boys of Thailand who lead elephants around by the trunk and work them all day moving things for profit. Think of playing with "killer whales" in the wild. Swimming with sharks etc. There is absolutely no reason to believe that man and dinosaurs could not peacefully coexist; even if some dinosaurs were predator and others were prey. Man is nothing if not adaptable. Is anything impossible for God?
And of course you are right to question why it would have taken mankind hundreds of years, let alone thousands of years to become a builder and an engineer. Once again science limits the type of mind that God gave to the first man, whenever that happened to be in the history of time.

Genesis tells us that mankind is being led to an existence similar to that of God. Having great powers of creativity and self control as the very sons of the creator, such that angels will serve as our willing assistants in God's operation of the cosmos.
So it seems obvious to me, that God is giving mankind a practical experience in the art of creation using natural materials. First the natural, next the spiritual.

Comment please, Indiana Bob

Dennis Vogel:
KJV Tit 1:2  In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;

CLV Tit 1:2 in expectation of life eonian, which God, Who does not lie, promises before times eonian,

I hope it's clear that God just does not lie, but CANNOT lie!

If all the geological evidence says there were dinosaurs then they existed. Else that would make God a lair.

There is plenty of evidence that man as we know him has been around at least 40,000 years. But if the evidence shows 100,000 years (well after the dinosaurs) then so be it.

Gen 4:15  And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.

Who are these "any?" His parents? No, the "any" were not Cain's parents.

Did God wait several hundred years before He confronted Cain? No, God confronted Cain right away. There was no time to generate the "any" to populate the earth. Clearly there were other humans on earth before Cain murdered his brother.

Ray has spoken on this. Can someone please find it?

Ricky:
Hi Dennis, God could have populated the earth outside the garden of Eden, which was protected by angels. The 6 day people were outside that garden. Cain found a wife of them which would explain the difference kinds of people in the world today. Where does it say Adam and Eve were outside the garden of Eden.

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