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The Enemies of God
Kat:
Rom 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmityG2189 against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
G2189 - hostility; by implication a reason for opposition: - enmity, hatred.
All humanity in the carnal flesh are enmity - hostile - hate God, that makes us His enemy. It is not until the Spirit indwells and we join with God then He takes this hostility away.
John 15:18 "If the world hates you, know that it has hated Me before it hated you.
v. 19 If you were of the world, the world would love you as its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you.
1John 2:15 Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in Him.
James 4:4 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.
friend n 1 : one attached to another by respect or affection 2 : acquaintance 3 : one who is not hostile 4 : one who supports or favors something <a ~ of art> 5 cap : a member of the Society of Friends.
We live in the world and do not need to avoid contact with other people, but we cannot be "friends" with the world or to me that means desire or enjoy the ways of the world.
2Peter 2:20 For if, after they have escaped the defilements of the world through the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the last state has become worse for them than the first.
v. 21 For it would have been better for them never to have known the way of righteousness than after knowing it to turn back from the holy commandment delivered to them.
v. 22 What the true proverb says has happened to them: "The dog returns to its own vomit, and the sow, after washing herself, returns to wallow in the mire."
mercy, peace and love
Kat
Joel:
Hi Trails1,
Not sure what you mean by "help and promote."
The Lord Jesus Christ, and the Father are our best examples ever regarding what we should do.
Luke 23:34-Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.
Matthew 5:43-48
43-Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbor, and hate thine enemy.
44-But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
45-That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
46-For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
47-And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?
48-Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
Joel
acomplishedartis:
--- Quote from: Trails1 on June 01, 2013, 08:17:28 AM ---Is it wrong to help and promote and love the enemies of God?
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This is how I see it. And I don't see any enigma here:
God doesn't have any enemies that could compete against him. When you are as powerfull as God, you can create your own enemy, and use it for a great purpose, specially if you want to teach your creatures trough contrasts in a world of contrats.
Of course is wrong to promote and help the enemies of God. As we can see, Jesus wasn't promoting or helping the religious leaders of His time, actually Jesus was his enemy since his teachings where all about spiritual matters of consequence while the religious leaders where stocked in useless rituals and where hypocrites. I believe that, watching from a large scale view, Christendom have poison society in so many ways.
And Yes, we should love (agapao-giving without expecting anything) our enemies, but we should not love (phileo-sharing as a close friend) our enemies...
Moises
ps. Even when many churches do ''good works''; many times, vanity, self promotion/advertising, and a self right attitude/ego is involved. But this too is part of the whole game, because if they would not do this things, they would not be able to deceive the whole world.
Trails1:
--- Quote from: Moises G. on June 02, 2013, 12:48:04 AM ---
--- Quote from: Trails1 on June 01, 2013, 08:17:28 AM ---Is it wrong to help and promote and love the enemies of God?
--- End quote ---
This is how I see it. And I don't see any enigma here:
God doesn't have any enemies that could compete against him. When you are as powerfull as God, you can create your own enemy, and use it for a great purpose, specially if you want to teach your creatures trough contrasts in a world of contrats.
Of course is wrong to promote and help the enemies of God. As we can see, Jesus wasn't promoting or helping the religious leaders of His time, actually Jesus was his enemy since his teachings where all about spiritual matters of consequence while the religious leaders where stocked in useless rituals and where hypocrites. I believe that, watching from a large scale view, Christendom have poison society in so many ways.
And Yes, we should love (agapao-giving without expecting anything) our enemies, but we should not love (phileo-sharing as a close friend) our enemies...
Moises
ps. Even when many churches do ''good works''; many times, vanity, self promotion/advertising, and a self right attitude/ego is involved. But this too is part of the whole game, because if they would not do this things, they would not be able to deceive the whole world.
--- End quote ---
Is it wrong to help and rescue those from their punishment that God has put upon them to try to cause them to repent from their sins and evil ways?
For example if God sent tornadoes and floods to destroy towns here in America because they are promoting and committing same sex marriage and promiscuous out of marriage sex and all kinds of abominations and adultery and fornication's and abortions and etc. etc. etc.
Is it wrong to deliver them from their punishment and correction from God?
Trails1:
--- Quote from: John from Kentucky on June 02, 2013, 02:52:21 AM ---
--- Quote from: Trails1 on June 02, 2013, 01:54:12 AM ---
--- Quote from: Moises G. on June 02, 2013, 12:48:04 AM ---
--- Quote from: Trails1 on June 01, 2013, 08:17:28 AM ---Is it wrong to help and promote and love the enemies of God?
--- End quote ---
This is how I see it. And I don't see any enigma here:
God doesn't have any enemies that could compete against him. When you are as powerfull as God, you can create your own enemy, and use it for a great purpose, specially if you want to teach your creatures trough contrasts in a world of contrats.
Of course is wrong to promote and help the enemies of God. As we can see, Jesus wasn't promoting or helping the religious leaders of His time, actually Jesus was his enemy since his teachings where all about spiritual matters of consequence while the religious leaders where stocked in useless rituals and where hypocrites. I believe that, watching from a large scale view, Christendom have poison society in so many ways.
And Yes, we should love (agapao-giving without expecting anything) our enemies, but we should not love (phileo-sharing as a close friend) our enemies...
Moises
ps. Even when many churches do ''good works''; many times, vanity, self promotion/advertising, and a self right attitude/ego is involved. But this too is part of the whole game, because if they would not do this things, they would not be able to deceive the whole world.
--- End quote ---
Is it wrong to help and rescue those from their punishment that God has put upon them to try to cause them to repent from their sins and evil ways?
For example if God sent tornadoes and floods to destroy towns here in America because they are promoting and committing same sex marriage and promiscuous out of marriage sex and all kinds of abominations and adultery and fornication's and abortions and etc. etc. etc.
Is it wrong to deliver them from their punishment and correction from God?
--- End quote ---
You are in error if you assume the destruction of life and property from tornadoes and floods is due to people committing sins.
In chapter 1 of the Book of Job, Job's ten children were killed due to a great wind and it was not because of their sins or Job's.
In fact, God never tells Job specifically why Job experienced all the sufferings he did.
Job said, "Shall we accept good from God and not evil?" Job 2:10
Joseph was sold into slavery by his brothers, and it was not due to any sin by Joseph.
God is responsible for all things in our lives, both the good and evil.
--- End quote ---
You are in error if you assume that I am talking about Job.
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