God's Quarterback

[John from Kentucky]

For those of you who are still carnal enough to follow American Football, it looks like God's Quarterback, Tim Tebow, will be signed by the New England Patriots as a backup quarterback.

I wonder how he will get along with Tom Brady?  Brady is not known as a choirboy.

[Patric]

He still may not make the team through the pre-season.....but one of the coaches in New England is the one that drafted him when he first got out of college

[Stacey]

Yes, I still have this fleshy carnal junk, and I enjoy it.

I believe if Timmy makes the team, they will get along fine. Brady will most likely see Tebow as a Jesus freak who is no threat to him at all. Which is pretty much the case.

[acomplishedartis]

John
Seems like you feel guilty about something, and doesn't really care about it. If you really believe that your hobby is a carnal thing to do, why then bring it and try to connect with others that are struggling with the same issue?
If you you are being just sarcastic, then I apologize and have not right to post this.

As anybody else, I also deal with things that I have to overcome, I am not trying to judge you, see that my post is not against football specifically. For what I am trying to bring the attention is, how do we deal with our idols of the mind?... Of course God is going to burn them all in time... but meanwhile, how should we be waiting for it?

Maybe some follow certain sport as an idol of the mind, and maybe others can be able to see beyond the entertainment and the negative things that surround it. As we already know, an idol is nothing and everything is allowed to us. However, if what we eat, and watch and talk about makes our weak brother stumble then we should stop.




PS. I hope you don't see these post as an invitation to fight. 

[onelovedread]

However, if what we eat, and watch and talk about makes our weak brother stumble then we should stop.

Moises:
Now that we have 'come out of her' and now that many of us are 'lone rangers' I wonder how to interpret and apply that scripture. How do I know which of my "brothers" are weak?
Are you saying that certain subjects should be avoided on the forum, since this is the place where many of us fellowship exclusively? I'd love to hear more on that.

JFK:
As much as I'm not a Tebow fan, I have to say that I do not like the way that the NY Jets dealt with him and his situation. It seems to me that they just wanted to buy into the hype but had no constructive plans for Tim.

[indianabob]

Football and hockey fans etc. etc.
I try to relate myself to our Lord Jesus as a friend who visits and is welcomed with open arms.
When he arrives, I drop everything like Abraham did and immediately offer my full attention.

I learned this by living for 52 years with my lovely, patient, longsuffering wife.
When I am in our den, totally engrossed in a TV game or movie, with my plate full of chips and salsa and my wife enters the den, I remove my ear phones or turn the volume off and turn to focus my attention on her exclusively. It's not only polite and gracious it's an obligation that the head of the wife should accept with joy and appreciation.
Now this wasn't always productive. It often was done without reward. But teaching my wife that I cared more about her needs than I did about the TV took time; lots of time.

The point is that we need to love and desire to be with our Lord Jesus more than anything. So the question we may ask of ourselves is where are our priorities? God first, family second, personal desires, as reasonable as they may be, last.

Kindly offered, Indiana Bob

[dodrill]

Indiana Bob - you are a treat
If every man / woman could learn to appreciate each other while they still have time on earth - what a better place this would be
And I don't care or dis-care if its football or rugby that is the distraction - just to be with you is my motto - and experience this wonderful gift of life together and perchance to hear you, feel you and see what you see
Thank you Bob for your incredible downright love attitude - I am weary of the words and hurdles and confines of separateness - who says my time would be better spent doing something else rather than just being with you?

[cjwood]

i just wanted to agree with hayley, that our indiana bob is a treat.  i so loved hearing about how he has respect, love, and honor for his wife.  old school charm.  love it.

claudia

[Rhys 🕊]

Nice thread and comments

Rugby is a proper game of course as a kiwi I must support the Mighty All Blacks as my idol - LOL 

Still in the flesh Rhys - haha 

[acomplishedartis]

Hi Indiana Bob, thanks for your post, it was the kind of post I was expecting after posting mine. It is of great help to link our dealings with personal idols and our dealing with our personal priorities. Sometimes when we put what should be first, first, only then, we start making progress.

To John Chris: You asked
How do I know which of my "brothers" are weak?

It's easier to know which of our brothers (people that we phileo-love them) are weak (in certain aspects of their life) when we live close or along with them. Actually when we are closer to somebody we get to know what things offend them and try hard to be easy on them, and if we are to introduce them to new inforation, then we try to do it carefully and with patience.

But in one online community, this is harder to do, since we are so many, and we can't even see our faces, we can merely grasp about the attitude of the others talking for the way they write. (My first language is Spanish and this sometimes gets in the way for me).

For example, I know John from Kentucky doesn't want to ofend anyone and that he is just sharing something that he considers interesting or amusing at this section of the forum.
On this particular situation, I consider my self here to be the weak brother, since personally I find big sponsored sports (I am talking about the whole sport scene) to be insensitive to human suffering worldwide, also because of hard experiences of merely surviving that I have had in the past. But I am sure that if I would be hanging out with Jonh from Kentucky here in Mexico, he would not find appropriate to bring this subjects to me (and even if he would do it, I would just say something like; yeah I can appreciate the human skills that those players have, they are awesome!... and then move the conversation into something that would connect us on a deeper way).

On the other side of the situation, I should also be careful to don't offend people that is not ready to listen things that are against what they consider just fine at this time in their life.

God, this thing of not offending a brother that is weak, is even harder to do it here online...

[Dave in Tenn]

Here's a guideline I kinda use, as imperfect as it is:

It's hard to call a conscience 'weak' if it is able to leap out of one person and attach itself to others.    

Another one from Ray:  If you can do it in front of your mother, it's probably OK.  For the forum?  Maybe if you could say it in front of your mother, it's probably OK.   

For me, it's just been best to remember and remind myself that if we always and only talked about 'carnal' things, we'd be wise to understand we are not all on the same 'side'.  Thankfully, football rivalries and arm-chair quarterbacking/coaching is usually all in fun.  Can't say that for every subject.

These guidelines won't work in the southern hemisphere, however, as toilets flush in the opposite direction.  Sorry, Rhys.  You're on your own.

[Rhys 🕊]

These guidelines won't work in the southern hemisphere, however, as toilets flush in the opposite direction.  Sorry, Rhys.  You're on your own.

Ha ha  I feel so abandoned

I had a feeling it had something to do with toilets flushing in the opposite direction. Thanks for confirming my suspicions kind Sir!

Rhys 

[Kenneth Clark]

i enjoy watching football and follow my team "religiously".  i dont often comment on this forum, but it seems like a lot of people here have an bible-truth forum idol...just saying...whats the difference

[indianabob]

That's alright Melton71, you're still young. Sports and fellowship are still important to you in your every day life. AND that 's fine.
We older folks, getting quite close to the BIG SLEEP, are starting to seek other focus for our attention. Wondering whether we have shown enough appreciation for the blessing we have received.

We are all here for a valid reason, we all have important facets from our experience to contribute in God's training program.

Sincerely, Old Indiana Bob