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Nathan:

--- Quote ---veering slightly off topic Rhys/Darren ...there is a place of obscurity with me when referring to the elect .... see what Paul has to say about his "crown"

2Ti_4:8  Now, a prize is waiting for me--the crown that will show I am right with God. The Lord, the judge who judges rightly, will give it to me on that Day. Yes, he will give it to me and to everyone else who is eagerly looking forward to his coming.

in Rays word "we can Know"

Ian
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The following passage of Scripture makes it clear what it takes to make our calling and election sure. We all need to continually examine ourselves to make sure we are not lacking these virtues.

2 Peter 1:

5 And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge;

6 And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness;

7 And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.

8 For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.

9 But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.

10 Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:

onelovedread:
12 Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed—not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence—continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling, 13 for it is God who works in you to will and to act in order to fulfill his good purpose.

Kat:

Yes it is God that does it all, nobody questions that... but it is "God who works IN YOU" so that it is possible that "WE work out your own salvation with fear and trembling."

Php 2:12  Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling;
v. 13  for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure.

2Co 7:1 Having, then, these promises, beloved, we should be cleansing ourselves from every pollution of flesh and spirit, completing holiness in the fear of God."

Heb 10:24  And let us consider one another in order to stir up love and good works,

Eph 2:10  For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God afore prepared that we should walk in them.

Mat 5:14  "You are the light of the world. A city that is set on a hill cannot be hidden.
v. 15  Nor do they light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on a lampstand, and it gives light to all who are in the house.
v. 16  Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works and glorify your Father in heaven.

Yes we give God all the glory that by His Holy Spirit we can have good works.

Eph 3:20  Now to Him who is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that works in us,
v. 21  to Him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus to all generations, forever and ever. Amen.

mercy, peace and love
Kat

loretta:

--- Quote ---God alone is the Power behind what we do.  We can't even find our way to the bathroom without God's direction, much less making our calling and election sure.
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Trust JfK to come up with such an analogy! :)

Which reminds me of my demised father who suffered from Alzheimer's.  When he would visit with us, he'd sleep in a room with an attached bathroom.  Yet, each morning, I would find puddles all over the house but during the day he would find his way to the bathroom.  Guess, we're like that, disoriented in the dark.  That is why we're commanded to walk in the light, that we may be children of the light.

Ephesians 5:8 For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:

Yes, there are moments when we 'can know' our calling and election.  Other times we will not be so sure.  This is also of God, to keep us on our guard. But God will be All in All and in that confidence I rest. Rather I try to rest. :)

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