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Did Jesus become a Curse on the cross?

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gerard_dsouza:
Kat
I agree with what you mentioned below on law. None of this is done away, it may have changed its form, especially for offering and sacrifices as now we have them as spiritual sacrifices.

Another thought, we do not tithe, but in a spiritual sense, we should tithe what we receive from the Lord as abundance in spiritual as it is like extra abundant food we received. So we have spiritual sacrifices, and we continue to have an attitude of giving. Giving to churches and institutions do not make sense, as we are to share to widow and orphans and the poor. Our brothers and sisters who are poor spiritually, so that they may grow to be wealthy spiritually.

loretta:
tks very much Kat, for those links to Ray's teachings.  You're right, it bears remembering the foundational truths that Ray so painstakingly exposited.  I now understand more than ever that for the elect, the law is spiritual, meat for our spiritual growth.


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 But what Gerry wrote about curses, got me wondering about the world and the called.  As he pointed out, in charismatic and religious circles, there is much talk about curses and deliverance activity.  While they are wrong in the naming and claiming game, are they right about the curses? Or are we all, post the crucifixion, under grace and God's sovereign hand.  The reason I ask, is because often, we look around and see people (not the elect) burdened or afflicted and we conclude that they are under a curse, a generational curse.

gerard_dsouza:
Ezekiel 18 New International Version (NIV)
The One Who Sins Will Die
18 The word of the Lord came to me: 2 “What do you people mean by quoting this proverb about the land of Israel:
“‘The parents eat sour grapes,
    and the children’s teeth are set on edge’?
3 “As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign Lord, you will no longer quote this proverb in Israel. 4 For everyone belongs to me, the parent as well as the child—both alike belong to me. The one who sins is the one who will die.

Looking at this verse we can see that the generation curse concept is not passed on from father to son. I know there is a lot of teaching on this and incidents people show from their parents being passed on to the children in deliverance meetings and sessions.
I believe a Father can curse his son or daughter and make them come under a curse because the Father has authority over his children and so can a mother. A husband can bring a curse onto a wife, we see incidents like this in some passages in scriptures.
In a spiritual sense, we can have these curses operating from generation to generation as the parents continue in the bad deeds of the parents but cursing their children.

Can anyone share what they see in Ezek 18: 1 to 3?

onelovedread:
Is there a matching scripture?

gerard_dsouza:
No I do not see any matching scripture from my understanding. Also the scripture, does not state explicitly that the generation curse is done away with.
It shows on the verses that follow examples of Son can be different from his Father and does not have to be impacted by his Father’s spiritual life.
Since there does not seem to be a clear scripture and also no double witness. We can say that the principle of the generation curse is probably continuing.
Anyone has any clarification in this matter?
I do know that curses do continue and operate around us and they are real.

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