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Lake of fire Book
indianabob:
AND that is the truth,
Thanks Extol ;D
Craig:
--- Quote ---Some here think Lulu is not making a profit on this. JFK thinks Lulu is making a profit.
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Of course LuLu is making a profit, it is a business. They are recouping their printing costs, wages, overhead, etc and making a profit. But they are not taking a cut of royalties because there is none, and nobody associated with Bible Truths makes a penny. LuLu is no different than any company that prints a bible or any other book that is free in the public domain.
Addison:
--- Quote from: Extol on August 01, 2013, 08:12:31 AM ---Some here think Lulu is not making a profit on this. JFK thinks Lulu is making a profit.
But this is an issue which has little to do with L. Ray Smith or the truths he has taught us. Whether or not Lulu is making a profit should not concern us. "Buy the truth and do not sell it..."(Prov. 23:23).
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I think Jesse put it best.
I also ordered the book a few days ago. It is supposed to come between today or the next few days and I am really excited about it. To be honest I wish Ray didn't have such a problem with selling his books in printed format. As long as he has his books available to read for FREE on his website, I don't see the big deal. I don't like reading long articles on my computer screen (it's really not good for you to look at a computer screen for that long) and I am a big fan of reading printed books.
For anyone who might be interested in purchasing one of your own, here is the link http://www.lulu.com/shop/l-ray-smith/the-lake-of-fire/paperback/product-12469615.html
And if someone genuinely can't afford to purchase one I would gladly buy it for you, just send me a PM.
Addison
gerard_dsouza:
Thank God that Bible-Truths has no paid workers. That is so much more blessed.
Having said that, if there is a cost for purchases of books or material, we should charge for that and not offer it free to those who can pay. Those who cannot pay, should be offered free.
I seen people say that they offer all their material free and then they place a offering link at the place where they can order freely. Very subtle, but what does that mean and does that not force people to give?
Any thoughts on this.
Nathan:
--- Quote ---Thank God that Bible-Truths has no paid workers. That is so much more blessed.
Having said that, if there is a cost for purchases of books or material, we should charge for that and not offer it free to those who can pay. Those who cannot pay, should be offered free.
I seen people say that they offer all their material free and then they place a offering link at the place where they can order freely. Very subtle, but what does that mean and does that not force people to give?
Any thoughts on this.
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Gerry, Ray mentioned the "offering link" topic in one of his audio's. Apparently, there was a time when BT did have a link on the main page where people could give to the ministry via PayPal. If I recall correctly, Ray said that they would get less than $100 per month on average. He told Dennis to get rid of the link altogether - if people wanted to give to the ministry, they would have to seek it out on their own. Apparently, people started to give much more after that.
The problem with an offering link with a disclaimer saying, "if you can afford it, click here and make a donation, if not, we'll send it to you free" is:
(1) A lot of ministries do this, but those same ministries don't typically already offer the material on their site for free - The LOF series is already available for free, albeit not in book form.
(2) It can come across as some kind of ploy and I think many people are suspicious of the hidden motives of the many charlatans out there (and rightly so).
(3) When you say "if there is a cost for purchases of books or materials we should charge for that and not offer it free to those who can pay. Those who cannot pay, should be offered free. " --- Those who can pay, can simply go to Lulu and order it. All those who cannot pay, can simply send a PM to Addison and he'll pick up the tab. 8)
Seriously, though, I think it would be up to us individually to pay for the book for those who can't afford it. I think the fact that everything is free at BT and there are no "give here" links, no matter how subtle or what the intentions are, exemplifies everything meant by "freely you received, freely give".
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