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Lake of fire Book
Craig:
Does the internet service provider that you use to access the forum cause a twinge? :-\
You are very learned, does the publishers that you purchased your bibles from, who make a profit cause a twinge?
If nobody made a profit printing bibles, do you think you would be able to own a bible?
That is all I'm asking, I see no difference. To each his own.
arion:
John;
Your really straining at a gnat here. There is a big difference between various so called 'ministries' selling there religious junk and telling you that you should give them your tithes and offerings and that you really need to plant a seed of faith, ect while they are driving in high end automobiles and living in luxury.
Charging $14 to cover the cost of printing the volume and another $6 for S&H is beyond reasonable. Heck, I printed the whole series out several years ago and by the time I paid for binders, computer paper and ink I spent considerably more than $20. Charging basically 'cost' to cover expenses is freely you have received so freely give. Unless you expect others to pay out of their pocket so you can receive what you expect to be free? Somebody always pays the bill for stuff. Heck, some people right now are paying the bill for you and others to receive what we get from this website. If everyone felt the way you do right now there would be no bibletruths website.
Kat:
John, the way I understand it is that Lulu only charges a fee on book that earn royalties (virtually all books do), but for the exceptional few that do not they do not charge a fee. So only the Manufacturing cost + shipping and handling is charged, their cost to get it to you. I think that is exceptional of them, certainly inspired by God, so there is nothing extra is earned by anybody.
Kat
indianabob:
Hi John,
I think that I referred to this issue previously in this subject thread, but once again referencing the Apostle Paul's statement it is obvious that L.Ray lawfully earned and was entitled to make a living wage from his part in God's work in order to care for his family. 1 Timothy 5:8
It takes energy and focus and dedication to do the work of God and each of us is entitled to benefit from God's work in a reasonable way. However Paul declined to charge his listeners, his faith family and worked with his hands to feed himself, not by compulsion but so that no one could bad mouth the work of God, even in error.
This may be a great topic to pursue further when time permits and on a different thread.
Thanks for considering my comment, Indiana Bob
Nathan:
I just got the book in the mail today. I paid $17.61 with shipping (the cheapest shipping they had) and I received the book in 6 business days. Like Bob said, it's a large book with large font - easy to read and much better than a binder full of printed pages.
--- Quote ---Lulu Press is making a profit selling this book. That's what businesses do. They sell things at a profit to make money, or they go out of business. They do not sell things out of the goodness of their heart. What will be, will be. I just don't like it when people are deceived in thinking that there is no profit being made from selling these truths.
What the World and its business enterprises do---they do. The Church of the Living God is held to the highest standards-----the standards of Jesus. Jesus said, "Freely you received, freely give" and "It is more blessed to give than receive." Lulu Press making a profit causes a twinge in the spirit.
John
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I fail to see the issue with the disclaimer on the back: "This book is provided as a service to those who want to receive the Lake of Fire in book form. Absolutely no income is made by L Ray Smith or by anyone having anything to do with Bible-Truths.com. The cost to you is only what the publisher charges to provide you the service of printing this book."
(1) The disclaimer makes it clear that neither Ray or anyone affiliated with BT is making a profit (2) Lulu is not saying that they are shipping this at cost - meaning they make no profit. They are saying that the cost is what the publisher charges to provide the SERVICE of printing the book - this includes a profit - they're a business. (3) "Freely you give, freely you receive" is why Ray and BT aren't seeking to make a profit on this. Lulu is not bound by this as they are a private business, not a part of the church of the Living God and not the author of the material.
John, I could see you taking exception to this if BT was trying to make a buck off of this book, but a third party publisher shouldn't cause a twinge in the spirit. They're actually doing us a valuable service.
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