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Dennis Vogel:
"There but for the grace of God go I."
Remember, God could have made any of us anyone else and put us in any situation at any time.
microlink:
Yes indeed. So true.
theophilus:
--- Quote from: John from Kentucky on September 05, 2013, 01:09:53 PM ---What does Jesus have to say? Let's see.
"...I do not pray for the world but for those whom You have given Me, for they are Yours." John 17:9
Since Jesus didn't pray for the world, neither do I. However, the majority do not follow or believe Jesus. They worship God how they choose. So they go about praying for World Peace, World Hunger, and most important of all to these heathen---Love, Love, Love for all, regardless of their ways.
Jesus never prayed for "our brave boys fighting in the Roman Legions."
Jesus also said those "who take the sword will die by the sword."
Let the dead bury the dead. At this time, Jesus is saving His Elect. That's why He tells us "Come out of her My people." Only the Elect hear His voice. The Many listen to Satan and his religious teachers of this world.
Jesus is not going to save the World, the Many, until the next age, after His return.
--- End quote ---
Then, what about 1 Timothy 2.1-3: First of all, I encourage you to make petitions, prayers, intercessions, and prayers of thanks for all people, 2 for rulers, and for everyone who has authority over us. Pray for these people so that we can have a quiet and peaceful life always lived in a godly and reverent way. 3 This is good and pleases God our Savior. ???
John from Kentucky:
--- Quote from: theophilus on September 07, 2013, 10:48:52 PM ---
--- Quote from: John from Kentucky on September 05, 2013, 01:09:53 PM ---What does Jesus have to say? Let's see.
"...I do not pray for the world but for those whom You have given Me, for they are Yours." John 17:9
Since Jesus didn't pray for the world, neither do I. However, the majority do not follow or believe Jesus. They worship God how they choose. So they go about praying for World Peace, World Hunger, and most important of all to these heathen---Love, Love, Love for all, regardless of their ways.
Jesus never prayed for "our brave boys fighting in the Roman Legions."
Jesus also said those "who take the sword will die by the sword."
Let the dead bury the dead. At this time, Jesus is saving His Elect. That's why He tells us "Come out of her My people." Only the Elect hear His voice. The Many listen to Satan and his religious teachers of this world.
Jesus is not going to save the World, the Many, until the next age, after His return.
--- End quote ---
Then, what about 1 Timothy 2.1-3: First of all, I encourage you to make petitions, prayers, intercessions, and prayers of thanks for all people, 2 for rulers, and for everyone who has authority over us. Pray for these people so that we can have a quiet and peaceful life always lived in a godly and reverent way. 3 This is good and pleases God our Savior. ???
--- End quote ---
It does no good to quote Scripture unless you can understand and discern the meaning, which comes by the Spirit of God.
As Ray was fond of saying, "you have to read all the words".
I highlighted the answer to your question in dark letters in that Scripture. The reason we are asked to pray for rulers is so "WE", the Elect, can live a quiet and peaceful life in a Godly and reverent way.
All the rulers in this world, just like all the religions and other systems are of their father Satan, the prince of the power of the air, and ruler over the children of disobedience. We need God's help to protect us from their evil and stupid decisions.
The Scriptures do not contradict. Jesus did not pray for this world. Jesus prayed for His chosen Elect. The world will have their time of salvation in the age to come, after the Return of the Great King.
onelovedread:
The question though is "Are we certain we're the Elect?"
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