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se7en:
Hayley,

I think I understand what your asking/stating. Your saying that what men of old thought of catastrophic events was very supernatural which today is explained easily scientifically?  meteors, earthquakes, volcanoes, lightning etc?

If that's what your saying then I totally agree with what your thinking here. Men didn't understand the physical laws of nature back then completely and fully as we do now. They attributed to some higher power or invisible being, and they are not wholly wrong.

the physical world and all it's scientists can only give us physical truths. They are physical "truths" when science is provable and being honest with itself, but it can only explain physical truth which is type and shadow.

We know that the physical is always a type and shadow of the spiritual TRUTH. So, it's absolutely fascinating to find out that pressure and heat to the earths crust from the mantle cause a volcano to erupt, or pressure and heat cause a diamond to form over time but as God's chosen elect, we seek out the spiritual Truth behind the physical type..... example: after much trial and tribulation, pressure, heat and time, we are formed into a beautiful diamond made into his image, within the Heavens (kingdom of God).

Is that what you were saying Haley?

dodrill:
Exactly - how eloquent you are dear brother - the wages of sin are death - not impending floods and fire and brimstone - yes that is how they naturally died - but it was how our Super Natural God brought it about - synchronizing all that is natural on the earth (no Sid Roth's version of a supernatural God with thunderbolts and lightening ;D)
I forgot to mention which sunday school I went to - a Presbyterian one - and I remember a teacher saying we are lucky if we get into heaven by the skin of our teeth - have you ever? I mean even as a kid I knew teeth didn't have skin :)

Deborah-Leigh:

--- Quote from: hayley on October 02, 2013, 10:54:14 AM --- I remember a teacher saying we are lucky if we get into heaven by the skin of our teeth - have you ever? I mean even as a kid I knew teeth didn't have skin :)

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CORRECT.

There is NO truth in any interpretation OF TRUTH.
Arc

Dave in Tenn:
Just a little comment inserted edge-wise:

All of these events are not simply "earth's birth-pains", but "the beginning" of travails for us.  What they are, when they occur, and how "ordinary" or "extraordinary" (terms I prefer over 'natural' and 'supernatural') they appear is in the Hands of God. 

Nathan:

--- Quote ---How do you reconcile some events in the bible that were catastrophic in nature (but very naturally explained by science today) like Sodom and Gomorrah where fire and sulfur, or brimstone, rained down - we would call that a meteorite shower today

The plagues in Egypt - we can understand these phenomena with weather patterns and the such like. So has man always been superstitious of Our Eternal Maker and Placer and written from this perspective - or has God's nature changed? Ray spoke of God resting - and we enter into His rest too

Has man assigned God this vengeful nature that would supernaturally (unnaturally) cause catastrophic events on inhabitants of the earth - or have we forgotten how to read the signs in the heavens - watching stars and learning how our earth works?
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One could probably find ways to explain the plagues in Egypt as natural causes as the History Channel and others have shown, but there is one plague that is undoubtedly supernatural in nature and that is the death of all the firstborn children of the Egyptians and the firstborn of their beasts.

The History Channel also made the claim that the parting of the Red Sea was not supernatural either, but rather, the Israelites just crossed over at a low tide or a dry portion of the sea in a certain time of season. If this is true, then how was the Egyptian army engulfed and vanquished by the waters of the sea if there was nothing to engulf them with.

Clearly, there is a supernatural element to these events. Was the flood in Noah's day natural or supernatural? In my opinion, there are many out to prove that all of these events are natural and not supernatural to prove that there is no God and of course there are others who will use these events to show that God is a vengeful, Thor-like being. Neither are true. When we understand His master plan in creating all of mankind into His image, it's ALL good. 

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