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Losing the will to live... Feels like I was born in Hell
G. Driggs:
Pierdut,
Most of us can relate to how you are feeling and what you are going through. Maybe this is how judgment is?
2Th 1:4 Therefore we ourselves boast about you among God's churches--about your endurance and faith in all the persecutions and afflictions you endure.
2Th 1:5 It is a clear evidence of God's righteous judgment that you will be counted worthy of God's kingdom, for which you also are suffering,
This seems to be the norm if God is saving you. It's gonna get pretty hot up in here, but hang in there it wont take long. :)
1Pe 5:5 Likewise, you younger men, be subject to the elders. And all of you clothe yourselves with humility toward one another, because God resists the proud, but gives grace to the humble.
1Pe 5:6 Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, so that He may exalt you in due time,
1Pe 5:7 casting all your care upon Him, because He cares about you.
1Pe 5:8 Be sober! Be on the alert! Your adversary the Devil is prowling around like a roaring lion, looking for anyone he can devour.
1Pe 5:9 Resist him, firm in the faith, knowing that the same sufferings are being experienced by your brothers in the world.
1Pe 5:10 Now the God of all grace, who called you to His eternal glory in Christ Jesus, will personally restore, establish, strengthen, and support you after you have suffered a little.
All is of God and He cares or else He wouldn't have caused all these encouraging replies to you. ;)
Craig:
Why all the vitriol against John? I wonder if it is because of the reply to the OP, or the statement about syrupy responses? Perhaps there is more back story in play? In some cases a helping hand and "sun will come out tomorrow" replies help the most. Other times an in your face "get over yourself" response is better. Is one more right than the other? Does all get used by God?
We don't know what all the OP is going through. And sometimes we are led to only lift a prayer for them; other times we may be led to kick their butt, sometimes we may be somewhere in between. I have more respect for someone who acts on their intinct than those who act on their conditioned response. Instincts are the raw clay God molds, conditioned response is what Ray referred to in his "Kiss of Death" article. Where any of us individually fall is something only we can evaluate in our own lives and takes some real soul searching. Personally I have learned to trust my instincts. I think that is closer to God, or at least it is the clay He can work with.
I wonder why the response from the OP was directed at John's post but the others drew none? did John's post make the OP consider his circumstances more, who is to say? On a forum it is hard to not to get our feathers ruffled, but when I see the responses I see sometimes, it seems the OP is forgotten and it is ourselves and our own egos that get pricked the most and that is what we are aguing about.
Nobody is suggesting that anyone whose response is more encouraging is fake, but neither should someone suggests anyone whose response is more of a kick in the pants, makes them a bad person.
Craig
onelovedread:
So now it seems as if we're resorting to conjecture and setting ourselves up as judges? Pretty tragic turn of events when we start analyzing motives of those crying for help. Hope it doesn't lead to people bearing their own burdens for fear of censure. Sad
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mickiel:
--- Quote from: Pierdut on October 15, 2013, 09:24:48 PM ---I don't know how much longer I can go on like this. Why does God hate me so much? After all, did He not create me? Why would God create something He hates? I never asked to be born; now I'm just looking to find a way out. I just can't win; I try and try and things just constantly go wrong in my life - I can't catch a break. My life consists of seeing other people have what I never will - I will never be happy, neither in this life nor the next (if such exists, and I hope it doesn't). You can't comprehend the misery I feel, the hopelessnes, and the rage.
I tried coming to God for help, but that too was in vain. Either He doesn't exist, or He doesn't care, and just hates me, and therefore gets pleasure out of my suffering.
There is no worse feeling than trying and trying, and giving it all you got only to fail time and time again. It's as if some mysterious force was working against me not letting me succeed in life. So what can I do? What's the point of laboring 10 hours a day 5 days a week, and then putting in 6-7 hours on Saturday when it's all for nothing? Really what is the point?
I don't care if you laugh; saying "what a loser" or whatever. It is not for lack of trying - I am not lazy, I am just cursed. Something won't let me succeed, and it is beyond my ability to do something about. So what am I supposed to do? I've prayed, I've tried to repent, and it all just seems like it was in vain.
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Well I certainly relate to some of what your going through, I am going through some of it myself. I am not into the " God hates me thing", nor am I a member of the camp that believes God hates sinners; because I think God's Love and hate, is nothing like ours. When he Loves; he has a certain kind of Love, and when he hates, its conversely a certain kind of hate, which I think no human can correctly define. I believe that God will both ignore and keep a distance from certain people for his own reasons; and living like that is a real suffering for that human. Especially if that human is aware that God is doing that to them, we then can react to it in all kinds of mannerisms. Living without God is just rough; I have never known what living with him is like; I imagine it is a wonderful thing. When you don't know why the suffering, I doubt that anybody who is not suffering will correctly understand what your going through anyway. Its easy to judge someone's suffering, its harder to go through the suffering.
When we keep trying and keep falling, there is no Joy in that; it becomes hard to " Experience all the good things the bible promises", and it seems those promises are just not meant for you.
I have prayed for you , and I feel for you; you help me to know that I am not alone in this particular kind of suffering. I have discovered that you can actually overcome sin after sin, actually be getting better, but still the suffering continues, and God seems not to care; seems like he will not draw close to you, so sin is not always the cause of this unusual situation.
All I can say is that if God has one in it, then that is where they will be; who can straighten what God has bent? If God has bent you, you cannot straighten yourself out, and nobodyelse can either. IF he has bent you, your better off than if you bent yourself; because there then is a divine purpose he has for doing it. And that purpose may never be understood in this life?
The way I see it, no matter how bad it gets, never stop trying; never stop believing, and never give up hope for release. The other choice is to just give up. I think what Job said is encouraging; " Though you slay me, yet will I trust you."
And God certainly slays and bends certain people; for whatever reason? I certainly don't know why!
May you suffer better.
Peace.
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