> Introductions, Announcements, and More of Ray's Teachings
So is church really bad?
onelovedread:
Seems like it's a necessary ingredient for His plan ;)
Excerpt from 'The Father's Will' 2006 Conference (http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,3720.0.html):
"God doesn’t call everybody to be one of His favorite chosen, elect, except from the church. So we don’t want to poo poo the church too bad, because that’s where He gets the elect from. I have never heard or known of an atheist converting and becoming one of God’s elect. They always go into the church first, to be corrupted by the church and then they’re shown the truth and they come out."
Say What?
dodrill:
For if he who comes to you would preach another Yeshua to you, whom we have not preached to you, or you should receive another spirit which you have not received, or another gospel which you have not received, you may well be persuaded. 2 Corinthians 11:4
even in different translations - persuaded has strong implications (coerce, influence, sway, prompt, inveigle, entice, tempt, lure, cajole)
Speaking of the church - which Christ do they preach?
cjwood:
the churches of the world teach the poor christ who wants to save everyone but can't because, well, not everybody will choose to believe in him. but, the "christians" get in. they get to go to heaven because they go to church. but thank God the Father/Jehovah/Jesus Christ! we have been graced to see the True Christ, the Saviour of the entire world. all that have lived. THAT is the Christ we worship. 8)
claudia
Deborah-Leigh:
Ray taught that all the religions preach Hell.
All the followers of all religions, will learn that Hell is a Hoax.
We know who the Harlot is. The false prophet is.....(not allowed to teach...) ~ ;D
onelovedread:
And yet... those were Ray's words.
Are you all saying that he was mistaken when he uttered them in the 2006 conference?
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