> General Discussions
Can you explain how God exist?
Dave in Tenn:
You're describing me in certain details there, se7en, before B-T. I was an agnostic, and would have been an 'atheist' if I could have been. When you don't even like the 'god' you have, you'd just as soon be rid of him.
Dennis Vogel:
Proof Kills Faith:
Joh 20:29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
mickiel:
It is interesting to think about the proofs of God and to know them. And one could never know enough of them. Such as " Increasing Complexity", complex things can only come from complex things, ( Or Life can only come from Life.) Or the " Anthropic Principles"; which means if one walked down a street and saw a dime on the ground, they may think nothing of it. They walk further and see three dimes on the ground, they may now think someone has dropped them. Then they walk further and discover 100 dimes on the ground, yet each standing on their edges- complettely balanced; now one can correctly assume that this was " Deliberately Done!" That is the Anthropic Priniciples in a nutshell; we can look at the Universe and many things and see that this had to be deliberately done. And things like this can be explained. One verse in scripture advises to " Prove all things", certainly God himself would be included in that; if one would care to take the time to do it to themselves. Prove it to yourself.
I often go through it with myself. Faith is one thing good to have, reason and logical proof is another. I kind of think we can use biblical archaeology to prove it; even science and history. There are many ways to prove God, and just as many reasons to do it. Faith is a strength for believers, but when speaking with an unbeliever or an Atheist, they won't understand or accept that. Dealing with an unbeliever can be an excercise, and could work you over; and some of those work outs can be good for faith; in a manner of speaking.
mickiel:
--- Quote from: Dave in Tenn on October 28, 2013, 10:36:06 AM ---God says I can't explain God.
Mickiel, for me "Is there a God?" almost doesn't qualify as a question, even if it has a question mark. Without HIM, there is nothing. Not even "empty space" nothing. Can you or anybody else really understand "nothing"? If there was nothing, would you be there to contemplate it?
--- End quote ---
I think " The Nothing", is a good point of proof for God; so many have fallen for " The Nothing", and actually believe all this came from nothing. Which is incredible assumption! They would rather give creation over to nothing, than give the credit to a God. Some give credit to this " Big Bang Theory", as if all this " Life" came from a super explosion that generated from nothing; how they feel and reason that life could originate from a destructive explosion, is beyond me.
mickiel:
--- Quote from: Kat on October 27, 2013, 03:13:59 PM ---
Hi mickiel, good thoughts. I do feel I have been given a great amount of faith to believe in God and what He is doing. But I take no credit for the faith I have and I understand how some just do not have faith... because it is a gift, in no way earned or deserved. It is purely by His grace that anybody has faith and to what degree.
Eph 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God,
So I can't really argue with somebody that does not believe. But if somebody has a desire to believe then I would say run with that, because we all have had our start at some point.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
--- End quote ---
Greetings,
I certainly wish I had more faith, its a wonderful thing to have I would imagine. So I have to often argue with others using reason, facts, history and reality as it is and has been. Which is hard at times, some people are really sharp and intelligent; but yet they are curious about God. Strangely interested really;( some of them I call " Closet believers", just not out of the closet.) I like asking the question: " If your not interested in God, then why are you so interested?" I tell you, I am just amazed at how many Atheist are invading religious message boards lately, and in some places, literally taking them over from believers.
Navigation
[0] Message Index
[#] Next page
[*] Previous page
Go to full version