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IN the day of Great slaughter, when the towers fall
Loomech:
--- Quote from: lilitalienboi16 on November 02, 2013, 10:30:23 AM ---Ian is right, partly. Most of ray's material is spent discussing the beast within, putting off thr old man, judgment. Christ's words are spirit and life etc... however, ray was not talking about "America" within the believer and we do know fron Christ's own words that there will come the end for this earth, not just the chosen of God in a spiritual way.
It is possibe Ian has not read the two towers paper. Have you read iy Ian? If you have, apologies for thinking you havnt.
God bless,
Alex
P.S. I don't think anywhere in the scriptures is man refeerred to as "two towers" or even a tower. Can anyone cooberate this claim? I know we are certainly symbolically the temple of God, a holy nation, a peculiar people.
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When I wrote my explanation of the towers, I did explain what the towers where built with. And those material items are the key to hearing what will need to be changed. It is another way to say "the beast within." Ever hear of a "self-made man? It is a man who has made himself a graven image, which can not deliver him from his folly. It is vanity.
Though the bible is constructed of many books, it is simple in it's theme: Jesus is in the whole volume of the book. As Jesus spoke to his disciples in the NT in parables, Jesus, being fully God, does not change. He speaks to us in parables throughout the OT as well. "He who has ears to hear, let him hear (and understand) what the Spirit says.
Dennis Vogel:
--- Quote ---Isaiah 26:9 was fulfilled the day Jesus was born on this earth.
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Isa 26:9
(CLV) With my soul I yearn for You in the night. Indeed, with my spirit within me I will seek You early. For as a light are Your judgments to the earth, the dwellers of the habitance learn righteousness."
The inhabitants of this earth certainly are NOT leaning righteousness. If anything it's getting worse.
(JPS) With my soul have I desired Thee in the night; yea, with my spirit within me have I sought Thee earnestly; for when Thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world learn righteousness.
(KJV) With my soul have I desired thee in the night; yea, with my spirit within me will I seek thee early: for when thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness.
(Rotherham) With my soul, longed I for thee in the night, Yea with my spirit within me, I kept on searching for thee,—For, when thy regulations extend to the earth, The inhabitants of the world will have learned, righteousness.
Christ's judgments are NOT yet in the entire earth. This is clearly a future event.
--- Quote ---And if you are truly borne from above, then you are God's judgement placed on the earth for such a time as this.
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Luk 6:37 Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:
This is not the time of the earths judgement. Other members can add a lot more to this.
--- Quote ---When will the nations learn of righteousness? Just as soon as you can kill the beast and minister as the Christ.
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I have never known anyone that 100% killed the beast (sinless). Judas was ministered in person by Jesus but his beast did not die.
--- Quote ---Since the kingdom of God is within you, and so is the throne of God, you will win the people through your kingdom's influence while being near to them.
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So much wrong here I don't know where to begin. We will win the people? Members, please tell Richard who wins the people.
lareli:
Ive heard Isaiah 17 brought up as a prophecy that has not happened yet..
1 The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap.
2 The cities of Aroer are forsaken: they shall be for flocks, which shall lie down, and none shall make them afraid.
Ive also heard arguements saying that Damascus was sacked/conquered many times since Isaiah penned this prophecy, but as we can all attest to today Damascus is still a city. One of the oldest cities perhaps.. On the other side of the arguement, people have speculated this prophecy points to Damascus and the surrounding cities of Aroer being uninhabitable which is why the animals will roam free and the people will forsake the land.. one thought is that perhaps a nuclear attack would make the land uninhabitable for people due to the radiation.
I dont mean to rile any political feathers and this may not even need to be pointed out but maybe some dont realize Damascus is the capital city of the nation that the POTUS was literally begging the American people to let him bomb just a few weeks ago. Not saying that this prophecy is or was close to passing as a result of what is happening in Syria today, but it is just food for thought since this thread is in reference to Rays views on post 9/11 America and which direction it is going.
Loomech:
It would be nice to have a crystal ball to look at the future US. I guess I'll just have to wait. :(
Dennis Vogel:
You said it:
Mat 11:15 He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.
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