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IN the day of Great slaughter, when the towers fall
rick:
I believe the apostles ask Jesus a similar question to which Jesus said no one knows except the father and claimed that he didn’t know the day or hour either.
One thing I do know is that when a person dies the world ends for that one and because of this one can say that the world been ending every day since Cain killed his brother.
Hope that helps .
Peace and Love to all.
Loomech:
I remember when I first heard of Charles Capps speaking of the 'Twin Towers' in his sermon "Solomon's Concept". It was produced after the event of 9/11. Interesting to listen to. Personally, I believe that when Jesus said that "It is finished", all the prophecies contained in the bible were completed as well.
Since the principle of God exists that it takes no less than two to agree, and 'towers' are that which was built by man and also made of brick; it stands in contrary to God. The Lord God gives us 'smooth stones' to build with; no sharp edges to harm us, His government is likened to the smooth stones that David picked out of the brook, which are the 5-fold ministry that defeated Goliath, and the same stones that Nehemiah and the people used to build the city with. Referencing the city that Nehemiah built, there still remain 'stones of stumbling' that yet needed to be thrown outside the walls of his city for it to be complete as the Lord demands. Bricks are just another way to express a stumbling block.
A cedar tree is very tough and will not bend and sway like the sycamore tree. Cedar trees are likened to God's Elect; those that will believe and not doubt, in spite of the circumstances. Cedars of Lebanon? Solomon was wise to build with these!
As for the fate of the USA? I firmly believe that the US has the blessing of Ephraim and she will recover from her losses, in time. Look towards the scriptures in 1 Samuel wherein the people cried out to God for a physical king. What they were actually saying to God was that they despised Him; did not esteem the Lord their God at all. So, God gave them a king! People that have no esteem for a Living God do get what they ask for (vote for). Liberalism has progressed so far into the imaginations of godless persons till it has virtually destroyed this once great country. But be of good cheer! His people, His Sons, those whom are the Elect, will bring Life once again within her borders. They carry the very presence of God within them. And Life cannot be undone by death. Do you believe?
lilitalienboi16:
--- Quote from: Loomech on November 01, 2013, 10:05:29 AM --- I remember when I first heard of Charles Capps speaking of the 'Twin Towers' in his sermon "Solomon's Concept". It was produced after the event of 9/11. Interesting to listen to. Personally, I believe that when Jesus said that "It is finished", all the prophecies contained in the bible were completed as well.
Since the principle of God exists that it takes no less than two to agree, and 'towers' are that which was built by man and also made of brick; it stands in contrary to God. The Lord God gives us 'smooth stones' to build with; no sharp edges to harm us, His government is likened to the smooth stones that David picked out of the brook, which are the 5-fold ministry that defeated Goliath, and the same stones that Nehemiah and the people used to build the city with. Referencing the city that Nehemiah built, there still remain 'stones of stumbling' that yet needed to be thrown outside the walls of his city for it to be complete as the Lord demands. Bricks are just another way to express a stumbling block.
A cedar tree is very tough and will not bend and sway like the sycamore tree. Cedar trees are likened to God's Elect; those that will believe and not doubt, in spite of the circumstances. Cedars of Lebanon? Solomon was wise to build with these!
As for the fate of the USA? I firmly believe that the US has the blessing of Ephraim and she will recover from her losses, in time. Look towards the scriptures in 1 Samuel wherein the people cried out to God for a physical king. What they were actually saying to God was that they despised Him; did not esteem the Lord their God at all. So, God gave them a king! People that have no esteem for a Living God do get what they ask for (vote for). Liberalism has progressed so far into the imaginations of godless persons till it has virtually destroyed this once great country. But be of good cheer! His people, His Sons, those whom are the Elect, will bring Life once again within her borders. They carry the very presence of God within them. And Life cannot be undone by death. Do you believe?
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I can't agree with you on all prophecy being fulfilled.
Isaiah 26:9 With my soul have I desired thee in the night; yea, with my spirit within me will I seek thee early: for when thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness.
This one from Isaiah has yet to be fulfilled.
Ezekiel 16:55 When thy sisters, Sodom and her daughters, shall return to their former estate, and Samaria and her daughters shall return to their former estate, then thou and thy daughters shall return to your former estate.
Sodom and Gomorrah have not been returned to their former estates. Neither has Isreal.
I'm sure I can dig out plenty more on the very same matter. I don't think "it is finished" was meant to be applied to all prophecy.
God bless,
Alex
lareli:
--- Quote from: Rick on October 31, 2013, 07:42:19 PM ---I believe the apostles ask Jesus a similar question to which Jesus said no one knows except the father and claimed that he didn’t know the day or hour either.
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The apostles asked when He would return and what would be the sign of His coming. Jesus did say "no one knows except the Father" but that was only part of His answer to them. He actually had a LOT to tell them (and us) regarding what signs and happenings to look out for as His return would be approaching. Not only did He give them the signs to look for but He told them (and us) to watch for these signs, and keep alert! He WANTED them to know what to look for.
Rays paper "In The Day of Great Slaughter" on the prophetic significance of the events of 9/11 is awesome and I hope everyone reads it..
God Bless!
Loomech:
--- Quote from: lilitalienboi16 on November 01, 2013, 11:42:17 AM ---
--- Quote from: Loomech on November 01, 2013, 10:05:29 AM --- I remember when I first heard of Charles Capps speaking of the 'Twin Towers' in his sermon "Solomon's Concept". It was produced after the event of 9/11. Interesting to listen to. Personally, I believe that when Jesus said that "It is finished", all the prophecies contained in the bible were completed as well.
Since the principle of God exists that it takes no less than two to agree, and 'towers' are that which was built by man and also made of brick; it stands in contrary to God. The Lord God gives us 'smooth stones' to build with; no sharp edges to harm us, His government is likened to the smooth stones that David picked out of the brook, which are the 5-fold ministry that defeated Goliath, and the same stones that Nehemiah and the people used to build the city with. Referencing the city that Nehemiah built, there still remain 'stones of stumbling' that yet needed to be thrown outside the walls of his city for it to be complete as the Lord demands. Bricks are just another way to express a stumbling block.
A cedar tree is very tough and will not bend and sway like the sycamore tree. Cedar trees are likened to God's Elect; those that will believe and not doubt, in spite of the circumstances. Cedars of Lebanon? Solomon was wise to build with these!
As for the fate of the USA? I firmly believe that the US has the blessing of Ephraim and she will recover from her losses, in time. Look towards the scriptures in 1 Samuel wherein the people cried out to God for a physical king. What they were actually saying to God was that they despised Him; did not esteem the Lord their God at all. So, God gave them a king! People that have no esteem for a Living God do get what they ask for (vote for). Liberalism has progressed so far into the imaginations of godless persons till it has virtually destroyed this once great country. But be of good cheer! His people, His Sons, those whom are the Elect, will bring Life once again within her borders. They carry the very presence of God within them. And Life cannot be undone by death. Do you believe?
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I can't agree with you on all prophecy being fulfilled.
Isaiah 26:9 With my soul have I desired thee in the night; yea, with my spirit within me will I seek thee early: for when thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness.
This one from Isaiah has yet to be fulfilled.
Ezekiel 16:55 When thy sisters, Sodom and her daughters, shall return to their former estate, and Samaria and her daughters shall return to their former estate, then thou and thy daughters shall return to your former estate.
Sodom and Gomorrah have not been returned to their former estates. Neither has Isreal.
I'm sure I can dig out plenty more on the very same matter. I don't think "it is finished" was meant to be applied to all prophecy.
God bless,
Alex
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Jesus tells us that the Father seeks them that will worship in Spirit and in Truth. God does not want carnality and conjecture, which is what will happen when man uses their own understanding to interpret His Word.
Isaiah 26:9 was fulfilled the day Jesus was born on this earth. And if you are truly borne from above, then you are God's judgement placed on the earth for such a time as this. When will the nations learn of righteousness? Just as soon as you can kill the beast and minister as the Christ. Since the kingdom of God is within you, and so is the throne of God, you will win the people through your kingdom's influence while being near to them.
Israel missed her day of visitation when Jesus walked among her. Why? The Jews were looking for a man dressed in royal robes and dripping with money and jewels. And since you do not understand scripture, you are interpreting scripture after their manner. I'm not attempting to insult your heart, just your learned intelligence.
Look again at Ezekiel 16:55. Now ask yourself, "Where were the former estates of Sodom, Gomorrah, Samaria, Israel, and everyone born in the earth as a son of man?" (I know, you are thinking about lands and places. Wrong to think that way. Get the mind of the Anointed [Christ]). Where did these people originate? In God the Creator! Zachariah states that the spirits of men were formed from within God. And since Ezekiel was prophesying to the nation (people) of Israel, we can understand this as Truth because Apostle Paul said that God would give His grace to the gentiles, which in turn would cause the Jews to envy and return to God.
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