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Man's spirit at Death
greenef:
Hi All;
In Ecc 12:7 at death the body is said to return to the Earth and man's spirit returns to God who gave it. What happens to the spirit after this? And could it be in heaven as some people think? Could this be the spirit that we will get at the resurrection?
Thanks, Frank.
Kat:
Hi Frank,
Here is a few places that Ray spoke on this.
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,7474.0.html -------------
Eze 37:8 “And I beheld, and lo, on them [are] sinews [tendons, strength, muscular power], and flesh [muscles, fat, etc.] has come up, and cover them does skin [the outer covering of a physical body] over above--and spirit there is none in them."
I know of no “spiritual” tendons, muscles, fat or skin, that are put on physical “bones” to remake a “spiritual” man. This is a PHYSICAL resurrection of the dead, Eze 37:10 “And I have prophesied as He commanded me, and the Spirit comes into them, and they live, and stand on their feet--a very very great force” (Ezek. 37:10).
Notice that it takes the spirit from God to give these dried bones life once more. They then “stand on their feet.” This is the exact and precise definition of the word “resurrection.” It means to “stand up” upon one’s feet, but the word itself has nothing to do with being “spiritual” or “immortal” whatsoever. Jesus raised a little girl and Lazarus from the dead, and they stood up on their feet and lived—they were not made spiritual bodies or given immortality. Likewise those saints resurrected at Christ’s resurrection, were not given spiritual bodies or immortality.
http://www.forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,655.0.html -------------
The consciousness is not in the body, and it is not in the spirit. The consciousness of man is in his soul, and his soul is resultant outcome of our spirit being united with a body. God breathed the breath and spirit of life into the man formed from the dust of the ground, and the man then BECAME a living soul. He BECAME conscious of his own being. At death we are no longer conscious of our being or our death. Our spirit must be reunited with a new body in resurrection before we will regain the soul and consciousness that we had before we died.
http://www.forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,644.0.html -------------
Don't make up phrases such as you have: "In spirit will I know myself?" There is no such thing as "being in your spirit." As a "being" you need a body. When your body dies, your "being" dies, your soul is gone (to the unseen, imperceptible--there is NO perception in death: not in your body, not in your soul, and not in your spirit). No one can live without a body. When our spirit is combined with a body, then and ONLY THEN do we have "soul" which is consciousness. At death no one has consciousness, or it wouldn't be death.
http://www.forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,1675.0.html ---------------
Yes, there is a spirit in man (AND ALL ANIMALS). Nothing can live without "spirit." Spirit IS life (Ecc. 8:8; Ecc. 12:7; Luke 23:46; I Cor. 2:11; etc.). There is no consciousness in our spirit alone. There is only consciousness (soul) when man's spirit is combined with a body. God retains our spirit until resurrection when He puts our spirit into a new body and we once again become conscious or receive back the quality of "soul." We are said to have new "spiritual" bodies, not that we are made "spirits."
God be with you,
Ray
greenef:
Thanks Kat, you were very helpful!
May God b;ess!
Frank
se7en:
I just have to say I love God's Word! I love the truth! When greenef or anyone has a question like this that they are unclear on or don't know about...
**BLAMMO**
The truth gets set on the table and we eat it.
I love it :)
Thanks for posting greenef and Kat!
Ian 155:
--- Quote from: se7en on November 05, 2013, 01:34:24 PM ---I just have to say I love God's Word! I love the truth! When greenef or anyone has a question like this that they are unclear on or don't know about...
**BLAMMO**
The truth gets set on the table and we eat it.
--- End quote ---
8) :)
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