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AwesomeSavior:
Pierdut:
As Ray has said.. It is very, very difficult getting saved. I understand your feelings, because I am going through the same process. The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak. To me, it has been so difficult that at times it has felt like coming undone, or at my "wit's end". However, it is just part of this difficult "Way". We were created by God, initially, as desperately weak and filled with deceit. To go from that point into the image of Christ takes so much time. Remember what Peter said? "Beloved, think it not STRANGE concerning the fiery trial which IS to try you, as though some STRANGE thing has happened unto you". We ARE going to think these circumstances in our lives are strange, but God is telling and reassuring us to NOT think this way. It's just part of the "long journey into a far country", as Jesus said in one of His parables, that's all. So very few will travel this journey in THIS lifetime. Pray to God everyday for His wisdom and mercy in your struggles, as I do the same. His Will be done. :)
rick:
Hi Pierdut
I don’t believe anyone’s life can be anything besides what it was ordained to be. Please remember we are a piece of clay in the hands of the potter ( God ) . It is God who has determined what each persons life should be.
Now God is working in your life but I think maybe you feel insecure because of sins you commit. God knows the very first sin I committed , He knows the sins I commit now and He also knows the last sin I will commit seconds before my death.
I do not have the ability to live up to the standards of God nor does anyone else either. Because we have not the ability to live up to the standards of God and come to understand that, then we realize , a war is going on within us.
I believe that this war I speak of is taking place inside of you Pierdut and its driving you crazy as it also did me, Now your on the threshold of trusting Christ in a greater degree.
God gave Ray some incredible insight to share with the world and we who understand God’s truths through Rays papers will experience a war going on within. Its like we become two rather than one and the two are always warring.
In the beginning for me, although I had the truth, I was still trusting in me rather than Christ. Oh I trusted Christ for salvation but me to clean my act up, ( LOL) I discovered I don’t have the ability to live up to God’s standards.
Everything in Rays papers leads me to the ultimate truth, which is trusting in Christ to do for us what we can not do for ourselves. However it’s in God’s time Pierdut,.
What your going through is what God intended for you to go through. As time goes on Christ will cause you to trust Him more and more with the passing of each day and night. Just remember its all in God’s time. Say Pierdut,have you considered your going through the lake of fire and things are getting burned up?
Peace and love to all. ???
Pierdut:
Rick, I believe that I am one of those that can not be forgiven in this age (nor the age to come). I would pray wholeheartedly to God for forgiveness, and his mercy and grace, and I would go right back to sinning again as if I didn't even believe there was a God, or didn't care. And I tend to be happier during that time than when I'm humble and believing and praying. Problem is, I can't stick to disbelieving in God any longer than I can stick to believing in Him again. My mind is a mess of all sorts of emotions and flashbacks, and regrets, and beliefs; beliefs which are not in accord with one another, and I have trouble choosing and sticking to just one thing. Yes, it really is a war within. And it's the same way with continuing to live or not. I go back and forth between marching on and putting an end to it.
I have prayed for peace of mind, and stability, and God's help, but it seems as though God won't help me. I have sinned willingly after coming unto a knowledge of these things about God, and as the Scriptures say - there remains no more sacrifice for that. That's what it seems like; but then, why do I still pray? A few years ago I couldn't have prayed even if I tried, because I lacked all faith, and completely disbelieved in God. Now I pray and believe He exists, but it seems like my prayers are unwanted, and that I'm praying in vain.
I am insecure about a lot of things, but failing to live up to God's standards isn't one of them.
Was re-reading those papers about "free-will," and I believe that I don't have such a power, or ability to make uncaused choices or to thwart God's plan, purpose, or intention. And that's mainly why I do pray, because I am (therefore) dependent on God for everything. I prayed that His will be done, no matter what the outcome might be. And then I'd go right back to having doubt, and doing those things I wanted to no longer do (envy, strife, hatred, etc., etc., etc.,..).
So what then is the solution?
Rhys 🕊:
You can't set yourself free......give it up, it's not going to happen
John 8:36 So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.
If the son sets you free then your free but only then and that's God's will. I have experienced that in areas of my life but not every area. All I could do is pray and leave it up to Him.
God does it His way and not ours. This passage helps me a lot when I'm struggling
Isa 55:8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, declares the LORD.
Isa 55:9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts.
Isa 55:10 "For as the rain and the snow come down from heaven and do not return there but water the earth, making it bring forth and sprout, giving seed to the sower and bread to the eater,
Isa 55:11 so shall my word be that goes out from my mouth; it shall not return to me empty, but it shall accomplish that which I purpose, and shall succeed in the thing for which I sent it.
It's not that God will not allow us to fail but it's HE CAN"T FAIL. We need to see that from His word and Ray covered it well.
You will be set free by His doing when you come to hate those things and you won't want to do them, that's what I've experienced. I wish it was in all areas but that day will come too........God will see to that.
I want to be 100% totally free now but it doesn't happen that way. I can't choose that but I can ask.
Been thinking recently about rejoice in the Lord always and yet it seems hard to do that but it becomes easier now as I realise it His work in me and even if it doesn't seem great in what is going on at times I know He is doing His will. His perfecting is being done as He wills so I rejoice because God is awesome no matter how I feel at the time.
Rhys
rick:
Hi pierdut
When I read your last reply, I felt as if I were the author of those words I read. Your words are heart felt to me as I can relate to them wholeheartedly.
I asked this question to God through out the years, If I live for 80 years and in those 80 years I was so evil so wicked and hateful , would it be fair to make me burn for more than the 80 years I made people suffer with my wickedness?
It always seemed to me that God was in and out of my life my whole life. I always felt condemned, never measuring up, always missing the mark. I tried to stop sinning and did ok for a day or two but right back to it again.
I prayed to God to take those sins out of my life that I felt would condemn me but to no avail. So I kept running away from God my whole life because of sin.
I am who I am and what I am and I can’t change me for nothing, the pull of sin is greater than any strength I have in me to be victorious over sin and I conceded that God is right and I am wrong and there is nothing I can do about it.
After years of living with this fear God answered my question through ( Bible truths )
The reason or cause that lead me to this site was a great fear I had most of my life, and that fear was going to HELL and burning forever without any hope. ( Thank you Christendom for the fear trip )
Today, because of B.T. I understand why I could never free will myself out of sin, I also come to understand that God is not looking to wack me with a baseball bat or send me to hell because of sin.
God wants me to have and experience of good and evil in this life because I / we are being made in the image of God. ( see the man has become like us knowing good and evil ). Today I believe if God leaves one thing up to me to get saved then salvation is not possible for me.
Sometimes I look at myself and say what does God see in me? Once there was a time I just did what I did and never thought twice about it, now not always so, I have regrets for some things and feel remorse for some things.
God made me in vanity, you know, to spiritually weak to obey the laws of God, I want to obey Gods laws , I want to do the right things in life , I want to be perfect but I’m not.
Maybe God won’t forgive me in this life, maybe not even the next life to come but somewhere in the future God will forgive me, or maybe God will forgive me in this life but I don’t really know.
Its up to God, it always was, there is nothing I can do about me, only God can change me, and so I wait on the Lord and I know I will be forgiven at some point in the future . Thank you Jesus.
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