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rick:
                  Hi Doug,

After reading your response I felt as though I might have been guilty of being on the sidelines, I have been trying to understand what role do I play and how does one discern between God doing it ? or the beast doing it ?

Now we know the beast is working in all of Christendom and not Christ, But those believers believe Jesus is doing it and are waiting for the beast to show up on the seen one day as most are looking from without rather than within.
But we here at B.T. understand the beast is within us, not just within,  we are the beast.

I guess knowledge is one thing but putting knowledge into practice is another thing, its kind of funny in some ways that is to say, when I used to go to church or was apart of Christendom I was filled with lies and was always confused and now I have the truth and still confused , Lol

I do believe all will be taught righteousness when His judgements are in the earth and all will come to an accurate knowledge of God one day. I am delighted knowing that hell as I was taught it is a Christen hoax but having said that I certainly hope I'm not found guilty of using this knowledge as a licence to sin.

 Still trying to make the connection to understanding the fine line of self righteousness and the righteousness which is of God working in me!

 

So Doug, you said somethings in your reply I identified with and feel I have become complacent in certain ways or areas because of the knowledge I have learned here at B.T. and I do appreciate your response Doug.

I don't respond to any post of other believers here as I don't feel qualified and rightfully so as I'm so young in Christ and wish not to mislead anyone with my lack of knowledge but do learn much from reading other threads and responses to those thread.

For this cause do I post on B.T. I say what I believe but an older believer who reads what I write can discern if what I'm saying is accurate or not an if so great but if not please do not hold back from helping me with my understanding.

Thanks again brother Doug for your response as you given me some things to think about.



Love and peace to all.     :)

Rhys 🕊:
We are all somewhere along in the journey and we can help one another. God reveals His truth bit by bit. There are some things that He shows me know that a younger believer may already understand. God knows what is best at the right time for each of us. So we should always share what we have and be open for correction. A younger believer can have something for an older believer or can trigger something off that makes the older believer search more deeply for. We should never under estimate what God may do through any of us whatever stage we see ourselves at.

Rhys

DougE6:

Hi Rick

Do you know what I want for you? To be with Christ in the First Resurrection!  To receive the white garment, to sit on His throne with Him, to be given a name that only you and Christ share, to have the crown of life, that the second death will have no power over you...

If there is anything I can do or say that helps another seek Him and follow Him that is all I can do. And that is what I want to do.

Yes there is tension, we never want to take credit or become self righteous, yet we want to be an overcomer! I have no desire to be complacent. God forbid is I secretly let my sin sit there because I say..."I am waiting for God to get rid of it"

I KNOW I NEED GOD TO CHANGE MY HEART SO I ASK HIM TO AND I EARNESTLY ASK.  I ask God to teach me to walk in His spirit so i do not gratify my lusts.  Am I double faced to ask? NO, it is more double faced to ask but not sincerely ask with all your heart...

Yes we rest in Christ. Yes Christ slays the beast that we are. We die daily. But there is nothing wrong with asking God to kill our beast!! If He does not, then He doesn't. But I would think that any prayer from my heart for greater righteousness and to die to the flesh and pursue righteousnes, I would think that prayer is from His spirit inside me, groaning for the redemption of the body. I hate my sinful weakness!!  God shows us plenty how weak we are, but God give us your spirit to make us live in accordance with your spirit, please..

I think the scriptures are written to encourage us to pursue the gift of the resurrection of the righteous. God never tells us that we have received, our race (or walk) is in faith, and if God ever told us I am sure we would surely THEN become complacent and proud!  Just as sitting back and not trying... saying well if God picks me he picks me, I am not going to pursue ..is also complacent...

But if you do not want it, or don't want it with all your heart, do you think he will give it to you? (This has nothing to do with how deserving one is on the outside, it is all about what is on the inside)

I pray that you, Rick are one of those counted worthy to be judge of all the nations with Christ.

Dave in Tenn:
Rick, you said when you were in church you were filled with lies.  I am supposing you meant, as all of us were, that somebody filled you with lies.  But for me, there has been a step or two beyond that in coming to understand greater truths.  That is that I don't want to be filled with lies myself.  I don't want to tell them, and I don't want to live them.  Whatever the case may be, that's what I want to acknowledge.  I've had to come to some bone-crushing realizations...many before B-T, and many since...about what is TRUE about me.  This type of "truth" was ostensibly expected in my church days, but never really accepted.

I remember the parable Jesus told about the Pharisee and the publican.  The Pharisee prayed "Thank you that I am not as this publican is."  He probably wasn't, in the way man measures goodness.  The Publican prayed, "God be merciful to me a sinner."  Jesus asked the disciples which of the the two returned to his house justified.  As I remember it, the disciples didn't answer, and neither did Jesus.  I think that leaves US to answer, individually.  I know MY answer beyond any shadow of doubt.  One day, the publican will have his answer to prayer, and so will the Pharisee.  Which comes first?

 

Dave in Tenn:
I'm not going to die before this thing is determined.  Why not?  Because it was determined from the foundation of the world.  Yet, I do not know what is determined except that which has already happened.  Therefore, I "work out my own salvation with fear and trembling" knowing it is God who works in me. 

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