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Pierdut:
--- Quote from: Rick on December 07, 2013, 07:51:16 AM --- Hi Pierdut
You said ( Why would I care about any of this if it were not about me and my life? ) I’m not sure about that statement, To me its about God and what He’s doing, in my life, God does not love me because I’m something special on my own but only because He chooses to love me.
The entire universe proceeds from our Creator, God does not need me, there is nothing I can possibly do for God, there is nothing I can give God, he owns the thousand cattle on the hill he owns everything.
Guess what I’m trying to say is, its all about God , its about Gods love for us, its about Gods forgiveness towards us through Christ, its about what God is doing for us not what we are doing for Him.
All of us have to go through what God wants us to go through, I once heard that God sees us as we will be, not as we are, not sure how true that is. Maybe we human being who were created in vanity should remember God made us this way for a grand purpose and the outcome would not be so grand if God made us any other way.
Its better if one does not question God, for His understanding surpasses all understanding. I guess God can cause one to see their cup as half full or half empty but its all for a grand purpose and a beautiful ending for every human being that ever was ,is and will be till His 2nd coming.
No matter how cloudy the day may be , above the clouds is pure sunshine my friend and God is going to get us there , everyone of us. :)
Peace and love to all
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Rick, even in your response to me you made my point: there is something in it For You, and that's why you care about it.
rick:
Hi Pierdut.
Think about Rays detractors , I read the same papers they read and believed what I read where as others read the same papers of Ray’s that I read and they believed them not.
Why is that? Am I smarter than they are ? I doubt it, am I better than they are ? I doubt it. So what’s the difference then? :-\
If God keeps me in the dark on something ,then everyone can explain it to me a thousand times and I’m not going to understand. :(
Its like Isaiah said ( but Lord who has believed our report ) faith comes from God, grace comes from God , understanding comes from God . You don’t worry over things you do understand , why worry over things you don’t understand ? ;)
You will understand what you need to understand when God says you’ll understand, and it’s the same for me and everyone else. ::)
Look at the incredible understanding God gave to Ray, I certainly don’t have that mans understanding, no where’s near rays understanding but look at the understanding I have compared to the understanding of Christendom. :o
What’s in it for me is liberation from this body of death through sin and knowing one day I shall be perfect even as my heavenly Father is perfect. :) :) :)
Peace and love to all. :)
Dennis Vogel:
--- Quote from: loretta on December 07, 2013, 05:17:12 AM ---
--- Quote from: Pierdut on December 07, 2013, 01:59:41 AM ---That's exactly why I am here, to try and understand what is happening in my life... Yet some had a problem with that; accusing me of having too many "I's" in my posts. Well, excuse me, but the bible is only relevant to me insofar as I am concerned. Why would I care about any of this if it were not about me and my life?
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Ok Pierdut, we'll let you have your pity party for awhile. ;)
But not a day longer than the Lord wills! :)
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I cannot fault Pierdut for being honest and pragmatic.
Dave in Tenn:
Pierdut, conversion is such a painful process. I can't be 100% sure "this" is your time, but since I believe it happens to everybody, and that you aren't "here" by accident, it may well be. One day the scales will tip and what is easy now will become more difficult and what is difficult now will become more easy.
Dave in Tenn:
Just a side-note. I had to look back and see what I actually said. For what it's worth, this was it:
"I've been benefited from Scripture more by having it EXPLAIN my life to me, than by trying to "CONFORM" my life to it."
Anyway, don't follow me...I'm just another guy on the internet. The statement stands, however, as true for me.
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