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Was The Father in Charge when Jesus Christ was in the Heart of the Earth
lilitalienboi16:
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We know that the Father first created Jesus Christ; and thereafter the Father was in the Son creating everything else.
I was wondering about the time Jesus Christ was in the "Heart of the Earth" leading to his Death and Resurrection.
Was this the only time since the Father created Jesus Christ, that the Father was solely in charge of all things, especially while Jesus was dead.
Also, was the Father still controlling all things through His Son while Jesus Christ was in Human Form on the Earth.
I am just curious.
George.
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A dead man cannot resurrect himself
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santgem:
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Kat:
--- Quote from: cheekie3 on January 10, 2014, 08:48:10 AM ---All -
We know that the Father first created Jesus Christ; and thereafter the Father was in the Son creating everything else.
I was wondering about the time Jesus Christ was in the "Heart of the Earth" leading to his Death and Resurrection.
Was this the only time since the Father created Jesus Christ, that the Father was solely in charge of all things, especially while Jesus was dead.
Also, was the Father still controlling all things through His Son while Jesus Christ was in Human Form on the Earth.
I am just curious.
George.
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Hi George,
As you indicated the Son was a created being, as such He was/is/will be always totally and completely under the control of His Father, that is the sovereignty of the Father, but that is the Oneness They have as God.
John 5:19 Then Jesus answered and said to them, "Most assuredly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, but what He sees the Father do; for whatever He does, the Son also does in like manner.
John 14:10 Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me? The words that I speak to you I do not speak on My own authority; but the Father who dwells in Me does the works.
John 7:16 Jesus answered them and said, "My doctrine is not Mine, but His who sent Me.
John 8:28 Then Jesus said to them, "When you lift up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am He, and that I do nothing of Myself; but as My Father taught Me, I speak these things.
1Cor 8:6 yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist.
The Father started this creation with the Son and it will continue until all the sons and daughters He desires has been added to that family of God.
Rev 3:14 "And to the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write, "These things says the Amen, the Faithful and True Witness, the Beginning (G746) of the creation of God:
G746 archē - a commencement, or (concrete) chief (in various applications of order, time, place or rank): - beginning, corner, (at the, the) first (estate), magistrate, power, principality, principle, rule.
2Co 6:18 "I will be a Father to you,
And you shall be My sons and daughters,
Says the LORD Almighty."
mercy, peace and love
Kat
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cheekie3:
Moises -
I am sorry it has taken a while for me to respond to your question as to why I want go know what the situation with Almighty God was when Jesus was in the Heart of the Earth; and dead - but I have been meditating on this as it is difficult to explain clearly.
We know that Our Father is Life; and He birthed Jesus Christ - and together they created and made and control all things.
I want to know if the Scriptures are silent on this; or if Ray expounded on it.
I believe the sum of His Word confirms that as the One (unified) God, Our Father and Jesus were controlling all things while Jesus was a man 2000 years ago, even though Jesus emptied himself with some of His Glory.
I want to know if the Words Jesus spoke on the cross "Abba, Father, why hast thou forsaken me" are significant with regards Jesus being in charge of all things with His Father.
Could it be that before Jesus could die, The Father (the source of Life) had to leave Jesus and desert His Son.
I do not believe Jesus could be One with His Father and control all things while He was dead.
I hope I have explained this clearly.
George.
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