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rick:
Seems I知 always questioning any and all sin in my life. I知 convince I知 committing sins I知 not even aware of.

 I understand Christ dealt with the sin issue once and for all ,that is not what I知 questioning.

My question concerns scriptures I read, such as ......

(ASV)  If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one also that doeth righteousness is begotten of him.

(ERV)  You know that Christ always did what was right. So you know that all those who do what is right are God's children.

(CEV)  You know that Christ always does right and that everyone who does right is a child of God.

(BBE)  If you have knowledge that he is upright, it is clear to you that everyone who does righteousness is his offspring.

(GNB)  You know that Christ is righteous; you should know, then, that everyone who does what is right is God's child.

(KJV)  If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him.

(KJV)  Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin;

(CEV)  Christ suffered here on earth. Now you must be ready to suffer as he did, because suffering shows that you have stopped sinning.

This scripture is self explanatory to me just as the sins I commit are self evident to me.
I知 baffled because I know God is only dealing with the elect now and all others later.

Because I do sin, I am of the later bunch no doubt, I don稚 understand my interest in God or desire to learn if I am of the later bunch , this is what baffles me.

So I know I cannot free will myself to live a sinless life, I guess it always goes back to the potter who molds us all for His good pleasure and purpose.

Because of the things I have learned here at B.T. I accept Gods plan for me, a vessel of dishonor. My desire is to still study Ray痴 papers and keep learning as much as I知 allowed to learn of God as He wills me to. Wisdom tells me to prepare for the white throne judgement here and now before there and then comes.

A long time ago I feared hell and wanted to know the truth about my destiny and had asked God, is hell real and God has shown me the truth about hell, what more could I ask for. God is awesome, God is great and I now know that for sure. I discovered the truth I was looking for.    :)

cheekie3:
Rick -

We all have a role to play once we are enlightened by our Heavenly Father through Jesus Christ. We no longer want to sin but it is a process.

I personally have never been hooked on drugs, cigarettes or alcahol by the grace of God.

I still on occasion shout at my wife which is wrong under any circumstances.

I apologise to my wife when I do unreservedly and repent of it to Almighty God.

I know from the scriptures you have quoted which Re real in my heart and mind that The Lord will get me to maturity whereby I will no longer shout at my wife.

George.

John from Kentucky:
All of the Elect sin, and will do so until they are born again at the 1st Resurrection. 

If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 1John 1:8

The only people I know who think they don't sin are the very religious people who always blather on about good works.  Just ask them and they will tell you all the good things they do.

The Elect were all selected before creation.  The Elect cannot choose themselves or unchoose themselves.  It is all by the grace of God.  So it is futile to think about being the Elect; we have no say.  Everybody will be saved; it is all a matter of when.

DougE6:
The Elect were all selected before creation.  True

It is all by the grace of God. True

So it is futile to think about being the Elect; False

Just because we cannot know until it actually happens does not mean we are not to covet and seek for the first Resurrection. We are instructed to seek for the things of God and His righteousness;  not to sit back like a bump on a log and say "it is useless, it has already been chosen, why should I try"

Lord, I really don't want to judge myself and pray and earnestly seek for your greatest gift that you can bestow, the First Resurrection because you have already chosen.

I don't get why you would even want to have that attitude.

rick:

There is much I need to learn / understand concerning my relationship as a believer in Christ and the affects of sin and how it effects my relationship with God.


Not sure where I received the understanding that God痴 elect do not sin, perhaps someone been whispering in my ear.

 I can understand this scripture below if applied after the resurrection rather than before the resurrection .

 ((ERV)  You know that Christ always did what was right. So you know that all those who do what is right are God's children. 

Thanks for your response.

Peace and love to all.   :)

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