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Spare the Rod and Spoil the Child?

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loretta:
So the vote is in.  Spanking is the way to go. ;D

But you're right JfK, where are all the good men who will father a generation of godly people.  Often I've wondered if we women have usurped the role of men, have sort of emasculated them, in parenting and other areas. So we have a new breed of men who display their masculinity by violating women but can't say boo to a goose.  No offence intended guys!

But then I'm sounding just like those in Christendom.  This also is of God, part of his purpose to make us taste of the tree of good and evil.

Dave in Tenn:
We still don't want to call evil 'good' and good 'evil'.  We need to know the difference!  That takes some measure of maturity, even if our years are few.

On a side note:

http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,6479.0.html

I know she's only six, but just a bit of preparation.   ;D

What's 'babylonian' is taking that verse to ungodly extremes, I think.   

Joel:
I agree with Craig.

Joel

loretta:

--- Quote from: Dave in Tenn on February 15, 2014, 06:11:09 AM ---We still don't want to call evil 'good' and good 'evil'.  We need to know the difference!  That takes some measure of maturity, even if our years are few.
--- End quote ---

Oh my goodness, that is so profound Dave!  It sums up so well, all that I have been thinking and feeling these past many months.  I could so expound on this - somebody give me a mike, quick, pls! :)  But then again preaching doesn't help, a good dose of experiential evil in the lof does it.  And an opening up of the mind to the spiritual truths of God - maturity, as Dave calls it.


--- Quote from: Dave in Tenn on February 15, 2014, 06:11:09 AM ---
What's 'babylonian' is taking that verse to ungodly extremes, I think.   

--- End quote ---

You mean whacking the daylights out of someone?  :D

Tks for that link, Dave. Everylittle helps, with the young ones.   ;)  I wonder if Taylor is still around at BT - he would have passed those tiresome teen years by now! And what a learning experience. :)

My elder girl was about 5-6 when I became a believer and all I hoped for her then was for her to be a missionary or a pastor's wife!  She was, and still is, a poster child for Christendom.  But as a mother I could see some major flaws in the design and I did everything, short of taking the rod, to rectify those flaws.  No, I didn't yell. :)  I did it the religious way - scripture and more scripture.  I got her bibles - children bibles, youth bibles, bibles for girls, teen bibles, you name it. And Christian books, videos, music and more - till she rebelled againt Christianity - or religion as I now understand it.  I became anxious for her.  I had been taught in Christendom that you have to pray if you wanted your children to marry godly spouses. So when your kids are in their pampers or even earlier, you pray not only for your kids but also for their future spouses, and their friends (positive influence...) that God will keep them pure till their marriage.  By then I couldn't keep up with my own prayer list!   What if, I thought, my daughter does marry some godly guy and ends up wrecking up the marriage, like Suzanne Hinn ( never mind that she eventually remarried Benny Hinn with great pomp n ceremony ) and some other top names in Christendom?  So you can imagine my relief when I stopped by BT and learned the truths of God and how there is nothing we can do one iota to change the will of God.  And that we have no free will to do whatever we do either.  8)

Reg:
I thought I read an article by Ray (I could be mixed up about the author, sorry) on the meaning of the verse spare the rod spoil the child...the conclusion of the study based upon verses regarding the "rod" such as the shepherds written of in psalms by David (?) Was that it was to guide, correct...like a shepherd with his flock of sheep. I'm sorry it's been a while since I read the article, but it was interesting to see   that the popular belief that the verse meant  that you should beat your child was incorrect.   It also took into consideration of how God guides us as our heavenly father.  My job involves helping children and families where the line of discipline has crossed over into the realm of abuse, emotional and physical injury with long term affects.. It breaks my heart that most people do not parent as our heavenly father does and most are ignorant tho the true purpose of discipline, correction and guidance.   

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