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"Jesus preached to people in HELL!"
Deborah-Leigh:
Our food is not their food. One mans food is another mans poison. What looks to the spider to be order, is to the fly, chaos. Its chalk and cheese, Oil and water yet YET, Ray identifies a very important point about the fruit on the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Ray explains. ITS THE SAME FRUIT!
There is a tree here in Africa known for its fruit that makes Elephants drunk. It can be quite funny, if you keep your distance that is, to see drunk Elephants. Christendom is reveling in dead drunken carousing blindness, seeing double and unable to walk the strait line!
It is one thing to know good and evil, and quite another to take from the tree of life, eat, and live forever, or to be rescued by the Grace of God to recover from the inebriated conditions of false teachings inherit in all religions. Hell is a hoax, Ray has exhibited very well for those not so drunk. Whilst in recovery, steer clear of drunk elephants. They don't only live in Africa!
You can't tell a drunk person, they're drunk! Only a getting sober person can hear, and they won't like it! You have to tell them something else and God knows what that is! God really does know ~
Arc
Rhys 🕊:
All these things happen and you soon know who your friends are
Pro 18:24 A man of many companions may come to ruin, but there is a friend who sticks closer than a brother.
John 15:14 You are my friends if you do what I command you.
John 15:15 No longer do I call you servants, for the servant does not know what his master is doing; but I have called you friends, for all that I have heard from my Father I have made known to you.
That's the friendship I want
Rhys
Dave in Tenn:
Loverly, it took just a few minutes of reading to know that what I was reading was true. But that "instant" came after decades of 'hearing' those scriptures and questioning the contradiction in the overall message. In other words, I COULD NOT have believed had I not been exposed to and believed that 'other' gospel any more than I COULD believe unless somebody (Ray Smith) was kind and foolish enough to preach it and God was Good enough to let me hear and believe and repent. I am so glad that all their time is coming, and they will be to when it does and they repent. Then 'life' begins with all it's troubles and joys and remembering and repenting.
ALL Glory to God, for without HIM, there would be NO message of Good Things. Without HIM, there would be nothing at all. All of this is His. ;D
It's 'now' that I'm learning in the course of living life that every other word Jesus said, and through His Apostles, is also true. His words are Spirit, and they are LIFE. Hang on! The ride may be bumpy, but you will live it. ;D
Deborah-Leigh:
Hi Loverly,
Ray expresses so beautifully the wonder of finding out that even if you shine a huge light into the eyes of a blind person, they still will not see.
Ray also gave us a saying that went something like this : to convince a person against their will is to leave them with their same opinion still.
There are a variety of places throughout Rays teachings that carry the same theme. Another one to enjoy is the relief from the guilt trip taught by Christianity to go out and win souls for Jesus!
You were honest with your daughter and that kind of example teaches what the best Seminaries have yet to learn. :)
Arc
loretta:
You're right Loverly. There comes a time when people close to us will know the truths that we espouse. And it is God who ordains the time and the outcome.
The only one time I shared the truth soon after finding BT was with a friend who was already disillusioned with the church system. I had told her at the time that the institutional church was unbiblical and had introduced her to Frank Viola's Pagan Christianity, which she devoured. So I assumed that she was ready for another dose of truth, but when I told her that hell also was unbiblical, she got upset, instead she referred me to a book on hell . So I posted back some unsavoury reviews I'd read about the book and asked if she had read the book herself. She hadn't, but she wouldn't even read Ray's paper that I had read myself and was recommending as a friend.
These days I avoid church folk and if I do meet them, I steer clear of their christian jargon. The other day, a young lady I met said that she had just become a believer. Earlier I would have responded with 'Halelujah, Praise God!'. Instead, I smiled back in response, nodding my head for a very long moment before saying, 'so you've left the church. This is just the start, not the end, God has alot of work to be perfected in you, and it's not going to be easy all the time.'
Nowadays, I keep company with the ungodly. It's refreshing after so many years in Christendom. Isn't that what Jesus did, kept company with the pharisees and drinkers. :) There is this tension in Christendom between fellowshipping with believers and ministering to the unbelievers. Most churches, also the one I attended briefly, were very insular. Sundays, weekdays, celebrations were confined to the church members. Others try to achieve a balance by meeting on Sundays for spiritual food as they called it and then going out into the world during the week. Try as I did, I couldn't do either.
Thank God, I can just BE.
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