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Six words Ray wrote.
loretta:
--- Quote from: jingle52 on March 06, 2014, 10:49:03 AM ---Exactly Dave, we should follow Christ by living a wholesome and godly life, dying daily to the lusts of the world.
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Don't mean to offened you, but that sounds like a jingle from Christendom. :)
--- Quote from: jingle52 on March 06, 2014, 08:12:53 AM ---
It is true that it is a long process, but we still have to make these choices to really want to walk that path, our Lord Jesus Christ will assist us if we truly want to win this race… then we will be able to put on that white garment to cover our nakedness in spiritual achievements. It's a long and hard battle we face everyday!
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Oh really, and do we really have the free will to make all those choices you outlined in your previous post?
cjwood:
Oh really, and do we really have the free will to make all those choices you outlined in your previous post?
it is a fact that we do NOT have free will, BUT, we do have a brain with which we make choices all day long. we CAN make the choice to go to the Word and make a conscious decision to follow after Christ, the Narrow Path. of course we know that any choice we make is the choice our Creator knew we would make.
our Father gave us the most precious gift He could through Jesus Christ our Saviour. he gave us a part of Himself, gracing our hearts with His faith. if we sit and do not walk in that faith, the very faith of Christ, hiding it within our hearts only, afraid to act on it because one might think we are doing it of our own efforts, then our faith is hidden as a light hidden under a cover. like the man who took the money given to him and went and buried it in the ground waiting to use it for a rainy day. the faith of Christ we hold within our hearts is mighty and powerful, and the only tool, besides His Word that we have to break the chains of this nasty world and all it throws at us. AND, both faith and the Word of God were given to us to use and apply, not just to hide it away in our hearts.
claudia
jingle52:
Amen Claudia.
Blessings.
Jingle
John from Kentucky:
Let Loretta be. She is correct.
We don't have free will. Therefore, the choices we make are not free either. They all go back to God. Read chapters 1 and 2 of the Book of Job.
Judas didn't want to betray Jesus. He was compelled to by forces greater than he.
Peter did not want to deny Jesus. He was compelled to by forces greater than he.
For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast. Eph 2:8-9
Grace is Divine favor from above. Faith doesn't save us (it's through faith) and of course works don't save us. Neither do faith and works together save us. Grace saves us. All comes from God.
Give all the glory to God. Humankind do not know their right hand from their left without the grace of God.
Kat:
Php 1:6 being confident of this very thing, that He who has begun a good work in you will complete it until the day of Jesus Christ;
It is God who drags us the Jesus Christ to start with and God does not just assist us, if we endure to the end, it's only because God does finish it in us. Yes it is done through us, we certainly do participate, God puts in us to will and to do and then we do strive and obey, but it is all of God.
Php 2:12 Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling;
Php 2:13 for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
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