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Kat:
Rick, your comments seems to question whether Christ has the power to rule the world and keep the peace as He claims He will in the next age. He is God over this creation with ALL authority in heaven and earth (Mat 28:18), certainly He can manage the humans He created.
You underestimate Christ's preparation to manage the wicked, I believe that Christ has everything under control now (this age is exactly what it is suppose to be) and certainly will in the next age as well.
If you are thinking that the 'few' don't seem to be enough to control the vast number of humans there will be. well not only will there be the risen elect, who I believe will be given great power to rule with Christ, but did you know there is a great host of angels that serve Him as well and some of them are called His elect angels?
1Ti 5:21 I charge you before God and the Lord Jesus Christ, and the elect angels, that you guard these things without prejudice, doing nothing by partiality.
Rev 19:9 And the angel said to me, "Write this: Blessed are those who are invited to the marriage supper of the Lamb." And he said to me, "These are the true words of God."
v. 10 Then I fell down at his feet to worship him, but he said to me, "You must not do that! I am a fellow servant with you and your brothers who hold to the testimony of Jesus. Worship God." For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.
How could a human murder a person who has been raised to immortality? The elect will have a very different existence than they have now, they will rule with the power of Christ and will fear nothing on earth... but the wicked will certainly fear them. Look at this chapter in Joel, I think it is speaking of the elect in the next age. Does it sound like they are worried about the wicked?
Joe 2:1 Blow a ram's horn in Zion, and sound an alarm in My holy mountain; let all the inhabitants of the land tremble. For the day of Jehovah comes, for it is near at hand;
v. 2 a day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, as the morning spread on the mountains; a great people and a strong people; there has not been ever the like, nor shall there ever be again, even to the years of many generations.
v. 3 A fire devours before them, and behind them a flame burns. The land is as the garden of Eden before them, and behind them a desolate wilderness. Yes, and nothing shall escape them.
v. 4 As the appearance of horses is its appearance; and as war horses, so they run.
v. 5 They shall leap like the noise of chariots on the tops of mountains, like the noise of a flame of fire that devours the stubble, like a strong people set in battle order.
v. 6 Before their face the people shall be much pained; all faces shall gather blackness.
v. 7 They shall run like mighty ones. They shall climb the wall like men of war, and they shall march each one on his way, and they shall not break their ranks.
v. 8 And each one shall not press his brother; they each go in his paths. And if they fall behind their weapons, they shall not be cut off.
v. 9 They shall rush on the city; they shall run on the wall; they shall climb up on the houses; they shall enter in at the windows like a thief.
v. 10 The earth shall tremble before them; the heavens shall shake. The sun and the moon shall grow dark, and the stars shall gather in their light.
v. 11 And Jehovah shall utter His voice before His army; for His camp is very great; for strong is He who does His Word. For the day of Jehovah is great and very terrible; and who can stand it?
Hope you can see what I am saying.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
rick:
Hi Kat,
I’m not questioning the authority or supremacy of our Lord Christ to do all He said He would do I was wondering because in the next age sin will still be inherit in those being saved through the lake of fire.
My point is God who is no respecter of persons are putting the elect through the things we must endure here and now would God not do also likewise in the next age for those who are on their way to salvation through the same things.
However after reading the verses you laid out it seems as things will be different in the next age as Christ will intervene in all things.
John from Kentucky:
Read a description of the Cherubim in the Scriptures.
Give me two of them and I'll take on any army or armies of bad boys in the world.
rick:
Hi John,
I believe the number of men they can kill is like 186,000 at the snap of a finger if my memory serves me well.
The idea is to convert people into the children of God. There is no purpose in killing people that need to learn righteousness and besides Christ is more than able to convert all but having said that are people to be repeatedly resurrected for ones infraction in the next age?
Obviously God already has everything worked out and nothing shall stray from His intentions and plan of salvation for all.
My point was in the next age there will be more sinners than elect and I’m assuming were there is sin there is also strife, just wondering how the elect will be affected. :-\
John from Kentucky:
--- Quote from: Rick on March 26, 2014, 04:52:24 PM ---Hi John,
I believe the number of men they can kill is like 186,000 at the snap of a finger if my memory serves me well.
The idea is to convert people into the children of God. There is no purpose in killing people that need to learn righteousness and besides Christ is more than able to convert all but having said that are people to be repeatedly resurrected for ones infraction in the next age?
Obviously God already has everything worked out and nothing shall stray from His intentions and plan of salvation for all.
My point was in the next age there will be more sinners than elect and I’m assuming were there is sin there is also strife, just wondering how the elect will be affected. :-\
--- End quote ---
Thanks for the sermon. ::)
When we are born again of the Spirit, we will be like the wind. No need for us to be affected by human sinners. 8)
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