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indianabob:
Johnchris,
I believe that you are correct. James the author was the younger brother of the lord Jesus and not one of the 12.
Also for better understanding of what he and Peter wrote to the Jews that they ministered to, keep in mind that they were not for several years teaching from the letters of Paul which Peter found "hard to understand" or to explain to the Jewish disciples. 2 Peter 3:16
Dave in Tenn:
From the paper I linked:
"Something really interesting to me, is the doctrine of 2 administrations; one for the Jews and one for the Gentiles. Two different gospels and all that nonsense. The Concordant Publishing teach that, a total farce. You can read my paper ‘Exposing The Secret Rapture,’ a 100 pages that just blows all that away.
II Peter was written to show the apostasy that had set in and would grow worse. That the WORDS OF THE PROPHETS AND THE WORDS OF THE APOSTLES must be heeded and preserved.
II Peter 3:2 that you may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us, the apostles of the Lord and Savior,
But Peter says, Paul writes to you, isn’t that what he says in II Peter 3:15?
But I thought Peter was suppose to go to the Jews and Paul to the Gentiles. Now it says in Gal. 2, that I (Paul) was to the uncircumcised and Peter to the circumcised.
Gal 2:7 …when they saw that the gospel for the uncircumcised had been committed to me, as the gospel for the circumcised was to Peter.
But look at this.
II Peter 3:14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for these things, give diligence that ye may be found in peace, without spot and blameless in his sight.
v. 15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also, according to the wisdom given to him, wrote unto you;
Who did Paul write all his epistles to? The Gentiles. Paul is now in prison in Roman and Peter is writing to the Gentiles. What is going on here? Apparently Paul wanted him to, because Paul can’t get these letters out being in Roman, like he use to.
II Peter 3:16 as also in ALL his epistles, speaking in them of these things;
What did Peter know about “all his (Paul’s) epistles”? Because Peter had them. He had them all. How did he get them?"
He had them, but didn't teach from them? I don't think so.
Dave in Tenn:
A link to the paper Ray referred to in that bible-study:
http://bible-truths.com/rapture.htm
There's more to that paper than just what the title implies.
Rene:
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Also for better understanding of what he and Peter wrote to the Jews that they ministered to, keep in mind that they were not for several years teaching from the letters of Paul which Peter found "hard to understand" or to explain to the Jewish disciples. 2 Peter 3:16
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In reference to 2Peter 3:16, I do not believe that Peter is saying that he does not understand Paul's teachings. I see this scripture as Peter acknowledging that there are those who will find Paul's writings hard to understand, and that there are those who will twist these teachings to their own destruction.
Here is an email reply from Ray that is in agreement with how I see this scripture.
http://bible-truths.com/emails.html#PeterPaul
"And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as OUR BELOVED PAUL [I don't see any friction or animosity here, do you?] also according to the WISDOM given unto him hath WRITTEN UNTO YOU; As also in all his epistles [Peter had THEM ALL!], speaking in them of THESE THINGS [the SAME THINGS that Peter writes about]; in which are some things hard to be understood [but PETER UNDERSTOOD THEM, THAT'S FOR SURE!], which they that are UNLEARNED and UNSTABLE WREST [THESE are the people who don't "understand" Paul's epistles, the 'UNLEARNED and UNSTABLE'!!]" (II Pet. 3:15-16).
Peter then tells them that,
"YE therefore, beloved, seeing YE KNOW THESE THINGS [the one's that Peter is writing to are not the "UNLEARNED AND UNSTABLE," NO, they 'KNOW THESE THINGS'] before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the ERROR OF THE WICKED [they were the one's not understanding Paul's epistles, not Peter!], fall from your own steadfastness. But GROW IN GRACE AND THE KNOWLEDGE [sound like Paul does it?] of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ" (II Pet. 3:17-18).
John from Kentucky:
--- Quote from: JohnChris on March 29, 2014, 09:48:39 AM ---JfK
I thought that the epistle of James wasn't written by James the apostle, but by James the brother of Jesus (Joseph's son). Am I mistaken? Has that been refuted somewhere, and I missed it?
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Hi JohnChris,
Yes, you are correct. The epistle of James was written by the brother of Jesus. But I did not say otherwise. In my post, I did not say anything about James (Jesus' brother) or his epistle. But the Scriptures do refer to Jesus' brother James as an Apostle, except that James was not one of the original Twelve. He was the leader of the church located at Jerusalem.
The James I referred to in my post was James, the brother of John the Apostle, the two sons of Zebedee. That James did not write any of the Scriptures. That James was killed by Herod Antipas to please the Jews, early on, some scholars say maybe around 40 A.D. His death is documented in the Book of Acts.
There are too many similar names in the Scriptures, such that it is easy to confuse them. Several James' and Mary's. ;D
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