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Ashamed of my conduct
lareli:
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--- Quote from: largeli on April 17, 2014, 06:12:52 PM ---I hear the 'what if he's gonna buy a beer or drugs' thing all the time. I mean even when I was a kid I'd hear my folks say something like that and now I'm an adult and that's still a common thing people say when talking about kicking down some money for a homeless guy.. Why does it bother people if a dude buys a beer with that money?
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The "dude" should get a job and by honest labor earn the money to pay for his own beer. After of course, providing for the needs of his own family and household.
The Scriptures are replete with admonitions that a man should work and provide for his own needs.
Just flip through the Book of Proverbs and you will find multiple Scriptures along those lines.
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John you frequently make assumptions.. and then make comments based on those assumptions.. and then delete parts of your posts or entire posts all together. I think theres a lot to be said about controling your toungue in scripture as well. Proverbs also has a lot to say about the fool who is quick to speak nonsense as opposed to the wise who controls his toungue.
Controlling ones toungue is a lifelong pursuit and if one makes this his ambition then he will probably not have very much spare time to worry about whether or not the homeless guy on the corner is deserving of his charity or not... If its in ones heart to give he will give. If not he wont. Its that simple. No need to try and guess whether he's gonna buy beer or what have you. Just the simple fact that a man is asking for help and another man is either in a position to oblige or not.
Ian 155:
--- Quote from: largeli on April 17, 2014, 10:35:03 PM ---
--- Quote from: John from Kentucky on April 17, 2014, 08:16:48 PM ---
--- Quote from: largeli on April 17, 2014, 06:12:52 PM ---I hear the 'what if he's gonna buy a beer or drugs' thing all the time. I mean even when I was a kid I'd hear my folks say something like that and now I'm an adult and that's still a common thing people say when talking about kicking down some money for a homeless guy.. Why does it bother people if a dude buys a beer with that money?
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This I have discovered is a foul arrogant spirit and it is in most beats, it elevates and is condescending and we ,instead of giving by faith, rationalize the thing and we fall into the trap. Coming from where i have, its become kinda 2nd nature to ,if i have, just give what i have with the original motive in mind which is "get something to eat or drown your miserable life out" doesn't matter ,if the motive is Godly.
Somefolks cant get a job etc anyway, we will always have the poor among us - perhaps its time to really count our blessings
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wat:
Wait, are some of you saying that it doesn't matter what they do with the money, as long as you give then you're doing good? If so, that sounds similar to some emails Ray has gotten where people say they tithe and if the minister does something wrong with the money, well that's between him and God. Then Ray comes back and says God does not bless you for giving money to a charlatan minister.
I'm all for helping the less fortunate, but I can't give money to someone I know nothing about. I can only help those around me.
lareli:
Id rather buy a homeless guy a 6 pack than tithe to a charlatan minister.
It would suck to be homeless and if a cold beer helps a guy get through his day then I'm ok with it, that's all. I don't want to judge him for wanting to numb his pain with alcohol if that's the case.
Let me also say that I equally don't want to judge a man for not wanting to contribute to a homeless guys alcoholism. That's totally understandable.
cjwood:
i think it comes down to a matter of whenever in the situation alex found himself in, that being, coming upon a person standing on a corner and assuming them to be homeless (which was most likely true), and being blessed with a job ourself and having a few $20's and a $100 bill with us, the guilt from not giving of what we had was from God to your heart. i believe it honors Christ more to give out of the compassion felt when approaching the homeless person, than to judge why they are there/what they will do with the money. compassion/charity/love agape are from the Spirit of God within us. that is what Christ taught in the commandment of love. i also believe, that especially knowing we would (God willing) be receiving another paycheck, in this particular case presented by alex, the $100 bill should have been given.
i know there are many who do not believe the same way. but, that too is of God.
claudia
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