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Ashamed of my conduct
Rhys 🕊:
Nice one Claudia
Thanks for posting
Rhys
Dave in Tenn:
2Th 3:10 For even when we were with you, we commanded this to you: If anyone does not desire to work, neither let him eat.
2Th 3:11 For we hear some are walking in a disorderly way among you, not working at all, but being busybodies.
2Th 3:12 And we command such and exhort through our Lord Jesus Christ that working with quietness, they may eat their own bread.
2Th 3:13 And you, brothers, do not lose heart in well doing.
2Th 3:14 But if anyone does not obey our Word through the letter, mark that one, and do not associate with him, that he be shamed.
2Th 3:15 But do not count him as one hostile, but warn him as a brother.
2Th 3:16 And may the Lord of peace Himself continually give peace to you in every way. The Lord be with all of you.
How many commandments do you count? And to whom are they given?
Dave in Tenn:
Here's what I come up with, trying hard not to be a lawyer. ;D
2Th 3:10 For even when we were with you, we commanded this to you: If anyone does not desire to work, neither let him eat.
2Th 3:11 For we hear some are walking in a disorderly way among you, not working at all, but being busybodies.
2Th 3:12 And we command such and exhort through our Lord Jesus Christ that working with quietness, they may eat their own bread.
2Th 3:13 And you, brothers, do not lose heart in well doing.
2Th 3:14 But if anyone does not obey our Word through the letter, mark that one, and do not associate with him, that he be shamed.
2Th 3:15 But do not count him as one hostile, but warn him as a brother.
2Th 3:16 And may the Lord of peace Himself continually give peace to you in every way. The Lord be with all of you.
To "some walking in a disorderly way among you, not working at all (not desiring to work) but being busybodies".
1. Don't eat.
2. Be shamed
3. Work with quietness so you may eat your own bread.
To "Brothers"...and I'm assuming he is primarily talking to those NOT "walking in a disorderly way...not working at all, but being busybodies." :
1. Do not lose heart in well-doing.
To all he is writing to and addressing: (The Lord be with all of you):
1. Mark that one who does not obey our Word through this letter.
2. Do not associate with him.
3. But Do not count him as one hostile (an enemy).
4. Warn him as a brother.
If EVERYBODY obeys, the EVERYBODY will be completely part of the ALL, to whom he says, "Do not lose heart in well-doing" and "May the Lord of Peace Himself continually give peace to you in every way."
Is this a spiritual match to at least some of the above?
Gal 6:2 Bear ye one another's burdens, (do not be weary in well-doing?) and so fulfil the law of Christ (do not count him as one hostile?).
Gal 6:3 For if a man think himself to be something (busybody?), when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself. (Warn him as a brother?)
Gal 6:4 But let every man prove his own work and then shall he have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another. (work with quietness so they may eat their own bread?),
Gal 6:5 For every man shall bear his own burden. (And may the Lord of peace Himself continually give peace to you in every way. The Lord be with all of you.)
Anyway, just wanted to get a bit past the 'verse-slinging' and look a little deeper. Your results may vary.
John from Kentucky:
But Jesus answered them, "My Father is working until now, and I Myself am working." John 5:17
cjwood:
my result is this dave. in the verses you brought forth from galatians, paul was speaking directly to brother believers. even the ones who were not working and were just hanging out sticking their noses into the business of others.
but, if you continue past the verses you used we find that in galatians 6:10, paul writes: "therefore, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, especially to those who belong to the family of believers."
the "all people" in vs. 10 surely includes homeless people standing on corners, suffering scorn and everything else going on in their particular lives, asking for help. all is of God.
the scripture verses in 2 thess. 3 were also paul exhorting the body of believing brothers to not be idle, but to follow his example of working for your own food so as not to be a burden on others. and he highlighted that some of the brothers were leading unruly lives, not working, and being busybodies. and if you read further down to verse 15 paul tells the believing brothers to not regard the idle gossiping brothers as an enemy, but to warn him as a "brother".
obviously the verses in 2 thess. 3 are directly to the believing body of brothers. they are not being spoken to the hopeless, homeless "all people" of galatians 6:10. we find many of those "all people" who, through God's working circumstances in their lives, now find themselves on a corner asking for help. some even with children and a pet.
so i stand on my earlier statement that i believe all contained in the email i posted from a fellow believer to be truth. and, in alignment with the written Word of God, and Jesus Christ the Word in the flesh.
claudia
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