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lareli:
I see what you're saying.. I agree with that. Investing your talents within and bearing fruit for sure. But I also consider what Ray did with his talents and how I have benefited from Ray investing and multiplying what God revealed to him.
On one hand I feel guilty and feel like I should be busy doing something other than 'eating' so-to-speak.. On the other hand I really love that verse that says to make it your ambition to lead a quite life, work with your hands and mind your business.
1 thes 4:11
11 that you also aspire to lead a quiet life, to mind your own business, and to work with your own hands, as we commanded you,
I appreciate your responses.
indianabob:
Friend largeli,
Understand your concern and I've been there.
Maybe this will help;
At this stage of our calling we are learning to depend upon God for everything.
That training will take many years to sink in and we are not yet ready to teach anyone else anything. Especially NOT the uncalled.
I have noted since being on the forum how often this subject comes up and my view is that we are not here to learn to teach; not yet. We are here to be taught and to examine ourselves to see how weak and poor and wretched we are and to fall on our knees daily and submit to God. That, in and of itself is a life long work that God is doing in us and becoming truly humble before God is very, very hard.
Our God loves us and is very patient and LONG suffering toward His beloved children. God is taking us through the steps very gradually so that we have every opportunity to face the facts that we are just "dirt" with some small communication abilities.
We are not qualified to teach anyone. In fact trying to teach another person, especially one that is not yet called is dangerous for them and is not doing them a favor.
In our relationships among ourselves, as the called, we have some protection since Lord Jesus has his hands on us. When we go out into the world to teach we are on our own and will likely do more harm than good.
Why second guess God by teaching what we do not yet understand. Trust God to do the calling and wait upon him in all things.
Respectfully offered, ole Indiana Bob
--- Quote from: largeli on April 23, 2014, 12:17:55 PM ---My concern isn't so much whether or not to go back to church.. I haven't been a part of a church for years. My concern is this.. God has literally blown my mind over and over and over ever since I left the church and focused on my own one on one relationship with Him without the input of the church. There's been revelation upon revelation and this site is a humongous part of that.. My question is, if the church instructions in the bible don't apply to us then what is it we're supposed to be doing with all these talents we've received? If the rest of my life is comprised of continually having my mind blown by new revelations and being a hermit then I'm fine with that but how then am I not the servant who buried his Masters talents instead of investing them?
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loretta:
--- Quote from: Dave in Tenn on April 20, 2014, 09:10:18 AM ---Like, when we have a 'turning one over to satan' ceremony, we wear special robes.
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Now that is not very hard to imagine, Dave! :)
--- Quote from: Dave in Tenn on April 20, 2014, 09:10:18 AM ---No...I just let them go. That's Spiritual.
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This one though, takes alittle understanding, given what we have learnt in Babylon.
--- Quote from: indianabob on April 20, 2014, 09:33:14 AM ---Weren't they still going to Temple and requiring circumcision and observances of the law? Requirements that Paul was teaching were no longer necessary for Gentiles under the New and Better covenant.
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Interesting that most evangelical churches today style themselves as NT churches and do exactly the same thing.
dave:
--- Quote from: indianabob on April 23, 2014, 08:55:21 PM ---Friend largeli,
Understand your concern and I've been there.
Maybe this will help;
At this stage of our calling we are learning to depend upon God for everything.
That training will take many years to sink in and we are not yet ready to teach anyone else anything. Especially NOT the uncalled.
I have noted since being on the forum how often this subject comes up and my view is that we are not here to learn to teach; not yet. We are here to be taught and to examine ourselves to see how weak and poor and wretched we are and to fall on our knees daily and submit to God. That, in and of itself is a life long work that God is doing in us and becoming truly humble before God is very, very hard.
Our God loves us and is very patient and LONG suffering toward His beloved children. God is taking us through the steps very gradually so that we have every opportunity to face the facts that we are just "dirt" with some small communication abilities.
We are not qualified to teach anyone. In fact trying to teach another person, especially one that is not yet called is dangerous for them and is not doing them a favor.
In our relationships among ourselves, as the called, we have some protection since Lord Jesus has his hands on us. When we go out into the world to teach we are on our own and will likely do more harm than good.
Why second guess God by teaching what we do not yet understand. Trust God to do the calling and wait upon him in all things.
Respectfully offered, ole Indiana Bob
--- Quote from: largeli on April 23, 2014, 12:17:55 PM ---My concern isn't so much whether or not to go back to church.. I haven't been a part of a church for years. My concern is this.. God has literally blown my mind over and over and over ever since I left the church and focused on my own one on one relationship with Him without the input of the church. There's been revelation upon revelation and this site is a humongous part of that.. My question is, if the church instructions in the bible don't apply to us then what is it we're supposed to be doing with all these talents we've received? If the rest of my life is comprised of continually having my mind blown by new revelations and being a hermit then I'm fine with that but how then am I not the servant who buried his Masters talents instead of investing them?
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:)
lareli:
IndianaBob I appreciate what you've said and I take it to heart..
If I may ask though, do you agree with Kat that the instructions in the bible about how to do church don't apply to us? This is the first time I've ever heard someone say that New Testament instructions for believers don't apply to us. I'm sure you can understand how that could be difficult to accept.
Forgetting the teaching aspect of church, what about fellowship? I mean other than a computer screen.. I see people reference certain conferences and speaking events that Ray held.. What happened to those? Why isn't there a directory or something where we can see if anyone lives in our town?
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