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Mark10;18
Joel:
The way I see it there is a difference in being good, " none good but one, God ", and doing good as men sometimes do. We are influenced by God, and therefore are able to do good works in the faith.
Jesus went about doing good because God was with him. Acts 10:38
To worship more than one God is Idolatry, Jesus never claimed to be a second God in a Godhead. He always talked about his oneness with the Father. "you see me, you have seen the Father.", "I and my Father are one."
He did speak about being "The Son of God", and that greatly irritated the religious leaders that were out to have him killed.
There is none good, but some can do good, Only God IS good. First and second Kings, And Chronicles are chocked full of examples of kings that did good, and evil, but it seems there are more kings that did evil than good.
Joel
santgem:
--- Quote from: Ricky on May 30, 2014, 09:32:41 AM ---Jesus said no one is good except God. Was He including Himself in this verse. How could He not include Himself, unless He is God. Any thoughts on this. Ricky
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Greetings Ricky,
Nowhere in verse Mark 10:18 Jesus refuses the title, but for sure Jesus is good shepherd, and He is good!
I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep. Jhn 10:11
I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine. Jhn 10:14
even as the Father knoweth me, and I know the Father; and I lay down my life for the sheep.Jhn 10:15
[[A Psalm of David.]] The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want.
microlink:
--- Quote from: Ricky on May 30, 2014, 09:32:41 AM ---Jesus said no one is good except God. Was He including Himself in this verse. How could He not include Himself, unless He is God. Any thoughts on this. Ricky
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--- Quote from: Joel on June 01, 2014, 01:55:30 AM ---The way I see it there is a difference in being good, " none good but one, God ", and doing good as men sometimes do. We are influenced by God, and therefore are able to do good works in the faith.
Jesus went about doing good because God was with him. Acts 10:38
To worship more than one God is Idolatry, Jesus never claimed to be a second God in a Godhead. He always talked about his oneness with the Father. "you see me, you have seen the Father.", "I and my Father are one."
He did speak about being "The Son of God", and that greatly irritated the religious leaders that were out to have him killed.
There is none good, but some can do good, Only God IS good. First and second Kings, And Chronicles are chocked full of examples of kings that did good, and evil, but it seems there are more kings that did evil than good.
Joel
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There is none good but one.
What a profound statement.
Yet everything Jesus did was good. As a Sheppard He was good. Doing miracles was good. All His actions were good.
Jesus was God manifested in the flesh. Flesh
Heb_4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.
Flesh is tempted in all points .
All have sinned - except Christ.
Jesus was flesh, born of a woman, lineage is from Adam.
Rom_8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
He condemned sin in the flesh because He did NOT sin.
Rom_8:8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
Why can they in the flesh (all human beings) not please God? Because all have sinned and come short! EXCEPT Jesus Christ.
Therefore, Jesus knowing the pulls of the flesh and always resisting having a full measure of the Holy Spirit, said there is none good, but one, God the Father.
Dave in Tenn:
Alex, actually I was leaping over the ensuing discussion and going for an answer straight and solely for the OP.
I absolutely agree with Kat when she says that the "answers" are 1. In Scripture, and 2. In the SUM of His Word. The keys for me are Paul's sermon to the Athenians and Jesus's explanation that WE are also in this relationship He has with the Father. That takes it out of theological speculation and puts it in terms I can understand (better) because I am a party to this.
That the "God" of the OT is Jesus the Christ and that He declared to His disciples (all Hebrews) that HE HIMSELF has a Father are significant also, to my mind. Anyways, I can't 'teach' it, even if I were 'allowed'.
It was easy for me when reading the Trinity paper to put aside the notion of the Holy Spirit as the THIRD PERSON of a trinity...yet I can't put aside the fact that there IS a Holy Spirit. It's been more difficult to lay aside the notion that this leaves TWO GODS. But it doesn't. In fact, I've even tried to retrain my mouth and my typing fingers to restrict the use of "god" as a name, especially considering that there are many "gods" and many "lords". Theologians can't have these words any more. They belong to me, now, and I will define them as they are used in (by their usage in) Scripture, as best as I can with the grace of God.
lilitalienboi16:
--- Quote from: Dave in Tenn on June 01, 2014, 08:25:06 PM ---Alex, actually I was leaping over the ensuing discussion and going for an answer straight and solely for the OP.
I absolutely agree with Kat when she says that the "answers" are 1. In Scripture, and 2. In the SUM of His Word. The keys for me are Paul's sermon to the Athenians and Jesus's explanation that WE are also in this relationship He has with the Father. That takes it out of theological speculation and puts it in terms I can understand (better) because I am a party to this.
That the "God" of the OT is Jesus the Christ and that He declared to His disciples (all Hebrews) that HE HIMSELF has a Father are significant also, to my mind. Anyways, I can't 'teach' it, even if I were 'allowed'.
It was easy for me when reading the Trinity paper to put aside the notion of the Holy Spirit as the THIRD PERSON of a trinity...yet I can't put aside the fact that there IS a Holy Spirit. It's been more difficult to lay aside the notion that this leaves TWO GODS. But it doesn't. In fact, I've even tried to retrain my mouth and my typing fingers to restrict the use of "god" as a name, especially considering that there are many "gods" and many "lords". Theologians can't have these words any more. They belong to me, now, and I will define them as they are used in (by their usage in) Scripture, as best as I can with the grace of God.
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Thanks Dave.
I see what you're saying. I see what everyone else is saying too. I definitely like what you said about sticking to scripture usage of the terms gods, God, Lord etc... You're right, theologians have certainly made a mess of this one and perhaps it is also the barrier of time and space that makes this a sticky place for us all. I certainly see it more clearly when I stick to how the scripture is describing the relationship and stop interjecting modern theology to it. Well, this has been edifying. Thank you dave and kat, appreciate it.
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