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God 'changed his mind'
lareli:
Mark 5 :30,32
Doesn't say Jesus didn't know who touched Him. I'm not saying He knew or didn't know, and I don't have an opinion on the answer either. But it doesn't say that He didn't know. It says He asked who touched Him. There's lots of places in scripture where God and Jesus ask questions that they knew the answers to.
God asked Adam and Eve questions. God asked Satan questions. Jesus asked the disciples questions.
How can you know whether or not Jesus knew who touched Him?
rick:
Hi Kat and thank you for your response.
So Jesus came forth from the Father, now what I’m understanding here is that Jesus is more like an extension of God the Father.
We human being are made from the dust of the earth, not created but made an also being made in the image of God , not in His image now but will be , future tense. Ultimately we are all from God but Christ is directly from God where as human being are not directly from God.
So when Jesus came forth from God , Jesus was instantly God and will always be God, Jesus is equal to God the Father but God the father is primary an Jesus is secondary in status only and also are two separate entity that are one in spirit or one in accord or singleness of mind or thought.
Kat:
--- Quote from: Rick on July 18, 2014, 04:40:33 PM ---So Jesus came forth from the Father, now what I’m understanding here is that Jesus is more like an extension of God the Father.
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Jesus is equal to God the Father but God the father is primary an Jesus is secondary in status only and also are two separate entity that are one in spirit or one in accord or singleness of mind or thought.
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Rick in your post above I have underlined your comments and I don't feel they both can really be correct. If the Son is more like an extension of the Father, then they are not separate. See what I mean? I guess it's difficult because we want to think of their being Father and Son the same way humans are. A human baby comes out of the mother an is a separate being, I do not think it is that same way with the divine connection between Father and Son. Notice something interesting in this passage.
John 10:27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me.
v. 28 And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand.
v. 29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father's hand.
v. 30 I and My Father are one."
In verse 28 Christ says nobody can snatch His sheep from "My hand," then in the very next verse speaking of the same thing He says nobody can snatch them from "My Father's hand." Another indication that shows how Christ is not actually separate. It is a conundrum, that through they are not separate, yet the Son is His own being and all the Scripture work together to point to the same thing, they are one, because the Father is in Him, literally.
John 17:21 that they all may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You; that they also may be one in Us, that the world may believe that You sent Me.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
rick:
Hi Kat,
I been reading the lake of fire series and had not gotten into Ray’s bible studies, Last night I started reading the transcripts from the Nashville Conf 07 of who and what is Jesus & who is His Father.
This is incredible stuff, I could not stop reading, I kept reading till like 3 o’clock in the morning.
There is so much stuff there an I was getting it, I was understanding all these things Ray was talking about.
I mean this whole thing with God for me started off with a deep belief in hell and being tortured forever, all I wanted to know was the truth about my destiny and why would God torture anyone forever for sinning the few short year that we live.
Now having some truth , I can see how silly it all was believing that God is going to do horrible things to us sinners knowing we cannot help ourselves.
I can’t explain what is happening to me inwardly , I mean this morning I went to bed and I’m laying there just thinking about all these things Ray was talking about and I start to feel this connection with God ,
I am overwhelmed in a good way to understand these things Ray is talking about because that which is false doctrine is losing its footing or root in me.
I am so thankful to receive all this truth I’m getting, I work many hours a day and don’t have much time to study, I wish I did but its not God’s plan for me to have all this time to study.
I want to say I was lead to this site by God, no doubt in me at all about that and I was lead here because I had one question I kept asking God , why are you going to make me go to hell because I like to do things you don’t approve of knowing well I can not help myself.
Not only did God answer my question about hell but he open this door in my life where all this truth is available to me.
Today I understand there is so much I don’t know about God but what I do know causes me to love God because I’m exposed to God’s truth after all these years of not having what I found here at B.T.
There is so much knowledge to learn here and this knowledge is setting me free and separating me from the world I once knew, yes from all this deception that is in the world, the world I’m no longer apart of but only passing through it. :)
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