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Riddles:

--- Quote from: thewatchman on June 26, 2014, 03:54:01 AM ---It is my experience that very few people who go to church go because of the preaching of the word and fewer the number who really understand it. Most people enjoy the social activities, which could be where your family is. Social interaction can definately be beneficial. We can't all be heretical hairy faced hermits living in caves. Why does that describe me? Hmmmm....
I do miss that part about church. But my personal scriptural convictions have drawn me away, but not everyone is like me.
Maybe have bible studies at home with your family. Sow the seed. It is God who brings the harvest. 8)

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Yep, it's a social club.

Riddles:

--- Quote from: largeli on June 24, 2014, 08:22:34 PM ---What is it about the great false church that makes it the false church.. Is it the hell doctrine and free will doctrine? The church that I grew up in was never big on the fire and brimstone preaching.. Actually I went to a bible study there once where the guy was teaching that hell wasn't real..

Also, why does God answer their prayers if they are praying to a false god?

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Largeli - another thing. The people who stay in the churches are not, generally, the "wicked', they are just fooled - foolish. They are the foolish virgins that Jesus spoke of; praying to and professing God, but not following Him (John 10:27). They sill get saved, but not the first go 'round; the wedding feast is for the wise, the elect. It's not possible to fool the elect, because they're following God and have been given truth. So the earnest churchgoers are not "the wicked", just fooled as long as they remain in the church. Remember that Jesus was kind and patient to his disciples who were also fooled, yet angry with those that profiteered off of fooling His sheep.

I for once am convinced that the identity of the five foolish virgins = churchgoers with terrible manmade doctrines about the impotence of God. Why? because there are TEN virgins, not eight or six. The ten symbolizes the scattered ten tribes that are all over the world, being drawn to God. Only some of those called will become wise, but all of the ten are spiritual Israel. If churchgoers were really wicked, they would not be described as "virgins" - they are virgins because they DO have the right God and generally, in my opinion, their heart is mostly in the right place, which is why in the parable our longsuffering God will let them join "the party" next time - by way of the elect (the wise virgins) who tell them "go instead to them that buy and sell!" - that is, go back to church. Recall that the bible says that the elect will be responsible for bringing the correct gospel to the nations.

The reason why the "groom" in the wise and foolish virgin parable doesn't know the five virgins is because they held blasphemous doctrines about the character of God, not because God sends us down the "bad egg" chute if we lack perfect academic understanding of scripture. But, God still can choose to answer the prayers of anyone, perhaps as a way to drawn them to Him, or just because He's generous. Long before I knew anything about repenting or living right, God answered many of my prayers.

Those fooled (foolish) have a form of Godliness by deny the power thereof (2 Tim 3:5). They have the correct God, but deny His omnipotence. They can benefit from His answered prayers and blessings, but they don't get to know Him in this life.

Joel:
I really have a problem calling the Roman Catholic Church, and her many protestant daughters CHURCH.
Some scriptures that came to mind while reading this thread;
Mark 9:38-40 And John answered him saying, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name, and he followed not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us. But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me. For he that is not against us in on our part.
1st Corinthians 12:3
Werefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

Each of us today has to at some point in time hear and act on the words commanded in Revelations 18:4-And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, MY PEOPLE, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
A Church denomination has a portion of Truth like currency has various denominations. 1$, 5$, 10$, 20$, and so on.

Nobody comes out until God opens their eyes, or ears as in Rev. 18:4. "My People" hear the loud voice from higher up. (heaven)

Joel

Riddles:
Joel, if you're referring to my post - I don't consider the RCC, EOC and the daughter churches "the church".

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