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se7en:
Robby,
I am going through a very similar situation at the moment, I hope this helps...
We know that we don't live by bread alone but by EVERY Word that proceeds out of the mouth of God. Each one of us, in our own age will live out the spiritual Words. We will all go through Christ.
I have been put through the fire and continually live in the fire of the Word which brings judgment to the House of God now, which temple we are. However, my wife and kids are not there yet. I've told them of the dangers and lies that prevail in Babylon but I, as a messenger, can only do my part... I cannot MAKE them do anything (Lord knows I originally tried and have paid dearly for it).
Eventually (and it may take the great white throne judgement) for my wife and kids, they too will come out of the lies of the "church". But until then, I'm learning through His Word and patience to know when to speak and when not to.
I personally cannot go back to babylon, but they have yet to experience the brightness of His coming in their life, I can pray that they will experience this (judgment in their life) and hope that they do, but it's all by His timing, not mine.
How humbling is that!
wcd:
To Robbie.....If you have been called out of Babylon beware of going back even if it may look a good idea for various reasons.Does not the phrase a dog returning to his vomit apply,best ask God for the right answer.
Mike Gagne:
--- Quote from: Rick on July 22, 2014, 04:50:38 PM ---
Hi Largeli,
I was reading something to the effect that Satan throne is in the church, also Satan is bound to the church. I will say there was a time I loved going to church, one could find me in the church more than once in a 24 hour period.
I personally will not step one foot into a church today. I will not put anyone under law and say you can not go to church.
If anyone ask me a question concerning my belief system and they disagree with what I believe I don’t feel in anyway compelled to get that one to see it my way. In fact I won’t talk about my belief system any further.
I agree that anyone who now attends church will be our brothers and sisters one day but right now they are not.
When two nations go to war they are enemy’s of each other at the time they are at war but when the war is over they will no longer be enemy’s
Ray has much to say about the synagogue of Satan in his writings and its my understanding that one should familiarize themselves and agree with Ray’s writings before joining this site so that all who belong to this site are like minded.
I had read some of your comments concerning the church you use to or still attend and I notice you speak well of them and how they help the needy and do all sorts of good works, my position and attitude with any church today is what do they teach, what do they believe ?
If they teach the doctrine of hell or the trinity or that when people die they go to heaven or they go to hell or that one must ask Christ into their life before they die or they will be eternally lost then I’m not interested in attending that church.
Unfortunately these are the things Christendom teaches and because I know these are the things they teach I will not step one foot into their door.
If one is going to church to socialize and not going to learn the belief system of Christendom then maybe no harm can come of it, maybe but faith comes by hearing and one should be carful what they listen to.
Whatever people do is between God and them not between God ,them and me , I have enough on my own plate in life without having to add more.
Jesus is savior of the world not Rick. :)
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--- Quote from: Craig on July 22, 2014, 09:41:06 AM ---Sounds like your congregation is right for you and know this, God has you where you need to be at this point in time.
Craig
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I myself will never go back into Babylon, Rick I have to agree with you , reading and agreeing with Rays teaching is what this site is about! I believe Rays teachings are inspired by God to teach the few! Craig is exactly right! That's why I like this site God sent me here!!
lareli:
Since you guys are way more familiar with Rays writings than myself, (not being condescending btw) can you show me where Ray said that coming out of Babylon means not attending a church anymore?
In the free will part D he suggests that the biggest part of coming out of Babylon is to put down our unscriptural belief of free will.. I don't have a problem with rejecting the free will doctrine... Nor do I believe in an eternal flaming hell where unbelievers will be tortured and never let out. And when I say I go to church I mean like maybe 2 to 3 times per year on average. It's always for someone else's benefit not mine but I don't mind either way. There's nothing for me there spiritually but I'm not going to act like I'm too good for anyone. Not just christians. I don't want to treat others like I'm right and they're wrong. Like I said before we are all wrong. You might have a more accurate picture of who God really is than the Christians do but I'm pretty sure you still have misconceptions about God that you won't know in this age.
You guys were all sold out for the Christian Jesus and Christian God at one point weren't you? I'll bet you would've died for what you falsely believed too right? Than God opened your eyes and proved you wrong. I don't know about you guys but that has humbled me. It sounds like it has had the opposite effect on some though. Making them more proud. I'm not directing that to any one person here. Just an overall observation.
It says 'come out of her' but it doesn't end there.. 'Come out of her, that you don't partake of her sins' it's so that you don't partake of her sins and then suffer her plagues. It's not like if you go to a church her sins are just going to rub off on you. I wouldn't join a small group or anything in a church but if a family member is dedicating a baby and wants me there I'll go! I'll sing and praise and worship too! I'll be polite and respectful when the teaching begins. They're spiritually blind. I wouldn't pick on a physically blind man so I'm not going to treat spiritually blind people as if they're lower than me either. They're going to be my brothers and sisters and I am not at war with them. Our war isn't against people!
John from Kentucky:
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