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John from Kentucky:

--- Quote from: largeli on July 21, 2014, 11:56:40 AM ---
--- Quote from: Rick on July 20, 2014, 12:22:26 AM ---

Seriously, I’m telling you the truth. Why subject your family to false doctrine ? It’s all the church has to offer.   ;)

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Jesus is the Son of God. Jesus died for our sins.

Is this false doctrine?

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As Ray brought out, the false church does not believe that Jesus died.  They believe that His immortal soul lived on and He was alive in spirit.  They also believe He went to preach to the fallen angels in hell after His crucifixion.  All lies.

Also in the false trinity doctrine the false church teaches He is one of three coequal gods and that all three are separate persons.  All lies.

The false church teaches all lies.  That is why Jesus tells us, "Come out of her My people."

Extol:

--- Quote from: largeli on July 21, 2014, 11:56:40 AM ---
--- Quote from: Rick on July 20, 2014, 12:22:26 AM ---

Seriously, I’m telling you the truth. Why subject your family to false doctrine ? It’s all the church has to offer.   ;)

--- End quote ---

Jesus is the Son of God. Jesus died for our sins.

Is this false doctrine?

--- End quote ---

Not only do they not believe Jesus died, as JFK pointed out, but they also don't believe He died (or was crucified and went to hell) for our sins. Okay, maybe our sins, but they don't believe He also paid for the sins of the whole world, as 1 John 2:2 and 1 John 4:14 plainly state.

The Church will also say "God is love" and "God is sovereign"---but they deny these two truths more vehemently than any other.

robby.morales:
Indiana bob and Rhys:

Gentlemen i want to thank you both for your replies. I am encouraged and will  seek to lead my family. Thanks again.

Respectfully, Robby

rick:
Hi Largeli.

If you want to poison a dog you know , you cannot give it pure poison because he will sniff it out and not eat but if you mix it in with good food he will eat it.

The church does it to people this way. Some truth but mostly lies. I notice you seem to have a disdain for anyone who speaks against the church.

If you wish to defend an institution that hurts people its your prerogative to but I don’t share your sediments. If you believed in the things that Ray taught I’m sure you would change your position as well.

If you believe that Christendom is the way to go that is between God and you not you and me but if your trying to sell me how truthful an righteous the church is I choose to believe Ray over you.

God bless you Largeli, have a wonderful day.   :)

santgem:

--- Quote from: Extol on July 21, 2014, 06:18:18 PM ---
--- Quote from: largeli on July 21, 2014, 11:56:40 AM ---
--- Quote from: Rick on July 20, 2014, 12:22:26 AM ---

Seriously, I’m telling you the truth. Why subject your family to false doctrine ? It’s all the church has to offer.   ;)

--- End quote ---

Jesus is the Son of God. Jesus died for our sins.

Is this false doctrine?

--- End quote ---

Not only do they not believe Jesus died, as JFK pointed out, but they also don't believe He died (or was crucified and went to hell) for our sins. Okay, maybe our sins, but they don't believe He also paid for the sins of the whole world, as 1 John 2:2 and 1 John 4:14 plainly state.

The Church will also say "God is love" and "God is sovereign"---but they deny these two truths more vehemently than any other.

--- End quote ---


adding to the bandwagon:

Jesus is a total failure......He cannot save the world. Most of the humanity will be barbecued in hell forever and ever...... :) :D ;)

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