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Rays Personal Testimony
robby.morales:
It may be important to better understand my motivation for asking about Rays testimony. What he taught is the reason I marvel at the providence of God. However, the value of knowing what kind of person he was in this life is not lost on me. When I think of Ray, I see a broken vessel delivering the truth of God armored in the authority of God. But I want to know what kind of man he was. How did he treat his wife? What do his close friends say of him?
Paul spoke of his testimony-- what he was and what Christ made him to be and it didn't take away from what he taught. To the contrary.
If I am not to know about my brother until the next age, so be it. I do not stay in the fellowship because Ray was my personal friend-- I never knew the man. I stay because the undeniable truth spoken through the foolisness of preaching holds me to account.
I have searched my conscious and it is clear: I want to know more about him because I still mourn the loss of the man and yet rejoice in the truth he championed.
Dave in Tenn:
Funny you mention Paul. I see a lot of similarity between the two constitutionally. I didn't really "like" Ray at first just from reading. I thought he was too brusk and "loud", even though I had never heard him speak. I didn't even know there were audios and videos for weeks (maybe months?) after I'd found the site. And when I did, I didn't have broadband connection back then, so I wasn't able to much more than stream a few seconds or a minute of the video--just enough to see what he looked like and his 'manner'. I could get the audio after a long period of downloading and was able to hear that, in person, he was much more 'temperate' than he 'appeared' in text. From what I can gather from the epistles, this is pretty much what some people thought of Paul--'hard letters', 'soft in person'. And some people didn't like one or the other about him.
So I completely agree with Dennis...and I experienced that. It wasn't about "Ray" in the beginning, but what he taught. It still isn't, even though I "like" him now.
Just to add to your 'list'. Ray apparently, after leaving the church, spent some time "in the world" (for lack of a better term). This is why I 'trust' him above any other reason. I don't have much in common with people who have never sinned.
I only met him in person briefly, in Nashville '08. I agree with comments made by others in my shoes (not knowing him personally well over a period of time) that he was a gentleman and had a servant's heart without showiness--a real person, and genuine human being. I also remember that he was in pain the entire conference--a good example for me when I'm not quite 'naturally' up to par.
lareli:
Paul, And all the prophets and apostles and Ray too.. Were all just sign posts pointing to the only one who deserves our praise.
John the Baptist had to explain this to his disciples.
rickylittleton:
Just to add my 2 cents in, I can remember so many personal conversations Ray and I had when we were dealing and suffering the effects of cancer and some of the side effects of some of the medicens. He and I cried together, and conforded and laugh to and en courrage :)d each other together. And Lord knows I miss him so much. Love for you all; Timothy
ez2u:
after reading ( for several days, continually) his web site. I email Ray it was amazing, he wrote me back and we had a little time of talking back and forth in the emails to each other. He was a loving man that cared about people really care. then his health really went down hill but Ray was very courageous and continued his work. Studying, writing and sharing, his pain levels were way off the wall. He was always seeking for the truth in the scriptures' fervently. His wife is a wonderful woman and still lives in Mobile AL. He gave freely the treasures he work very hard to receive from the Word. He was an ordinary man that had a big appetite for Gods Truth. some people might think am wrong to call Ray ordinary but Jesus isn't ordinary not Ray Jesus used Ray.
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