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rick:
After reading when the towers fall by Ray, I’m convince Isis is a club in the hands of God. We are a Christian nation but we are not Christ like are we !

I use to think judgement is on the house of God first, which it is but America and Europe are the house of God, we are Israel.

I use to think the house of God was individuals , the elect who are being judge and who are going through the lake of fire.



What is happening in America is God’s judgement on His people.



"This, know also, that IN THE LAST DAYS, perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent [without self-control], fierce [brutal], despisers of those that are good, traitors, heady [reckless], high-minded [haughty], lovers of pleasures more than [rather than] lovers of God; having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away… EVER learning, and NEVER able to come to the knowledge of the truth" (II Tim. 3:1-7).



"A SINFUL NATION, a people LADEN WITH INIQUITY, a seed of EVILDOERS, children that are CORRUPTERS: they have FORSAKEN THE LORD… they are gone away BACKWARD… the whole HEAD IS SICK, and the WHOLE HEART FAINT. From the sole of the foot even unto the head there is NO SOUNDNESS IN IT" (Isa. 1:4-6).

"CRY ALOUD, SPARE NOT, LIFT UP YOUR VOICE LIKE A TRUMPET, AND SHOW MY PEOPLE THEIR TRANSGRESSIONS, AND THE HOUSE OF JACOB THEIR SINS" (Isa. 58:1).  :(

indianabob:
Interesting question,
Who are God's people?
Who are gentiles?
I note that the apostle Paul was restrained from taking the gospel to the East into Asia, but instead was led to Rome which eventually led to Europe and then to America and nations that were colonized by Europe/Britain.
So was this intentional that Asia, for the most part, did not receive evangelicals for all those centuries since Paul?
I thought that gentiles included anyone who was not a Jew.
Just wondering how it was that the "church" developed predominately from Rome toward the West. The new world.
Bob

Ricky:
I don't think America has anything to do with Gods people, God says that the love of money is the root of all evil. So what did Christians do? They put IN GOD WE TRUST on pennies, and now they are the most powerful, riches  nation in the world and they give God the credit for it, Something don't smell right with this!!

rick:
Hello Bob

Below is from when the towers fall by Ray.



"Not as though the word of God has taken none effect [God is not contradicting here]. For they are NOT all Israel, which are Israel. Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children, but, In Isaac shall your seed be called. That is, They which are the children of the FLESH, these are NOT THE CHILDREN OF GOD: but the children of the PROMISE ARE counted for the seed" (Rom. 9:6-8).

Yes, God intended from the beginning that the TRUE JEW, the SPIRITUAL JEW, the TRUE SEED of Abraham, the TRUE HEIR to the promises was to be the GENTILES!

rick:
Hello Ricky,

take a few minutes and read , when the towers fall.

By Ray,

THE UNITED STATES AND EGYPT IN PROPHECY

If the United States is the primary nation among those making up the "Great House" of symbolic Israel, then we must see evidence of her going to the nations rather than to God for defense from her enemies. But surely as great a nation as the United States would not be involved in so insignificant a nation as today's Egypt, would she? Does the United States...

"…carry their riches upon the shoulders of young donkeys, and their treasures upon the humps of camels to a people [Egypt] that shall not profit them" (Isa. 30:6)?

From: CHRISTIAN SCIENCE MONITOR, (April 12, 2004).

Top recipients of US aid each year

Iraq - In 2004, it will become the largest recipient of US aid, receiving $18.4 billion.

Israel - The largest recipient of US largesse in 2003, getting $2.1 billion in military aid annually; $600 million in economic aid.

Egypt - Out of a US foreign aid budget of about $14 billion in 2003, Egypt was the second largest recipient with $1.3 billion in military aid; $615 million for social programs.

SOURCE: COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS

"Most Egyptian economists and businessmen, however, agree that few positive economic reforms have occurred. "

"Tarek Heggy, the former head of Shell Oil in the Middle East, and a prolific writer on Egyptian society: ‘I am not aware of much economic reform.’"

"’US AID has been ineffective at changing economic policy here because CAIRO KNOWS THAT IN THE END IT WILL GET THE US MONEY REGARDLESS OF ITS ECONOMIC POLICY,’ according to Walker, who since leaving the State Department has become head of the Middle East Institute in Washington. ‘Egypt remains as anti-investment as it has ever been because WE HAVE NEVER MADE OUR AID PROGRAM CONDITIONAL,’ says Walker." (CAPS are mine)

And what did God say through Isaiah? What did God call Egypt?

"Their strength is to SIT STILL."

Moffett translates it:

"Dragon DO NOTHING,"

Living Bible,

"Reluctant Dragon" (Isa. 30:7).

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