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Ricky:
Be careful those left and right shoulder angels are taking down notes for Mohammad.
Ricky:
Hello Dave, I find this interesting, gonna get something off my chest. What I say comes from me, I don't read anything other than B.T. On other topic I asked everyone here if anyone believes they are the elect. No one said anything about it, because no one knows. Not all shall sleep (die) I was not directing death and sleep at those people, because they are sometime in the future, 100 years maybe we don't know. It was directed at us because I dought we will be alive when this happens. DEAD in CHRIST, What does In Christ mean? I believe there is only ONE way you can be Dead or Alive In Christ, You Must have the power from God to believe the Truth there can be no other way to be In Christ. So saying this would mean for us, if Ray is correct, we would be the only ones that are In Christ meaning we just might be the elect. So death to us would mean instantly caught up in the air with Christ. Ricky
lilitalienboi16:
--- Quote from: Ricky on October 17, 2014, 01:35:10 AM ---Hello Dave, I find this interesting, gonna get something off my chest. What I say comes from me, I don't read anything other than B.T. On other topic I asked everyone here if anyone believes they are the elect. No one said anything about it, because no one knows. Not all shall sleep (die) I was not directing death and sleep at those people, because they are sometime in the future, 100 years maybe we don't know. It was directed at us because I dought we will be alive when this happens. DEAD in CHRIST, What does In Christ mean? I believe there is only ONE way you can be Dead or Alive In Christ, You Must have the power from God to believe the Truth there can be no other way to be In Christ. So saying this would mean for us, if Ray is correct, we would be the only ones that are In Christ meaning we just might be the elect. So death to us would mean instantly caught up in the air with Christ. Ricky
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Personally, I havn't watched the entire video so what I'm about to say is purely directed at what you said here ricky,
I don't think we can assume we are the elect, that is rather presumptuous of us. To my knowledge,, none of the apostles made this claim of themselves. I also don't think we are the only ones God has called and chosen in the world. There may be yet others out there who are chosen of God and striving to win the race but who are not participators in this forum here. Who can say with certainty? Only God knows the elect.
As to this topic:
I will watch the video before making any comments.
"A fool judges a matter before he hears the whole..."
indianabob:
[quote author=lilitalienboi16 link=topic=15881.msg142439#msg142439 \
Hi Lilitalienboi16,
Reference your message quoted in part below.
I do think that the apostle Paul considered himself one of the elect and taught the same to members who believed the gospel of Christ given to Paul.
I think we all realize that there have been called out and chosen believers in every generation for at least the past 2000 years since Jesus' ascension. Although as you say we don't have a full definition of who they are.
It really doesn't take a lot of bible knowledge to be a believer once the faith has been given. A person doesn't even have to be very literate or intellectually superior. It's the confusion brought about by the ones (some teachers) who do know it all that is so difficult to overcome; until God erases that error and that is a lifelong work for each of us.
Error doesn't disqualify us from serving God and Jesus, as long as we receive strength from Jesus to continue to repent of our error when it is pointed out to us.
God calls mainly those who are small and insignificant to build them up the way God wants them to be. So I'm quite confident that there could be a million or so in any generation who don't even have access to the Internet. (smile) [I went to school when we still had books and teachers who dressed for work.] Still a very small percentage out of 7 billion...
With what I've been through in life and what I have learned and am experiencing now, I have the hope of continuing in my journey of faith and I am assured that when I fall down the Lord Jesus will kick me in my shins until I beg for the strength to get back up and continue on the path he has put me on. Jesus made it quite plain that NONE of his would be lost. Once Jesus finds the lost ones he doesn't let loose. You can bet your life on that.
WE can rest in the assurance that God want us to be His and God will finish His work in us.
Mark 9:24 "lord I believe, help me with my unbelief"
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I don't think we can assume we are the elect, that is rather presumptuous of us. To my knowledge,, none of the apostles made this claim of themselves. I also don't think we are the only ones God has called and chosen in the world. There may be yet others out there who are chosen of God and striving to win the race but who are not participators in this forum here. Who can say with certainty? Only God knows the elect.
As to this topic:
I will watch the video before making any comments.
"A fool judges a matter before he hears the whole..."
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Ricky:
We cannot assume we are the e!ect, what I have stated points to the fact that we would have a better chance at being the elect than anybody inside church' or any religion they belong to, none of them know the truth. We are not the only ones God has chosen, we would be the only ones chosen during this time period. Back in Bible days did the people know what the word Elect means in the Bible? Something tells me that they did not have the same meanings and knowledge of the Bible that we have. Take a look at how difficult the Bible is for people today that have knowledge to understand any book out there, except the Bible. These people are Doctors, Judges, Lawyers, Presidents, Prime Ministers, Queens, Kings, and so on. People were not educated back in Bible days. I think the Bible is the only book on the he planet that scares the hell out of everyone, this is why most of the world stays away from it. I believe we need to see God differently than the church or any religion does. I can back that up with a verse, Do not be comformed with the world! Do not do as they do, If we are the Elect I really think we need more hope of this. It would help us do better for Him. Ricky
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