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Is it possible to be Chosen of God without reading The Scriptures
rick:
Hello Alex,
your absolutely right in what your saying, Amen brother. :)
cheekie3:
All -
Thank you all for your responses - and I am wondering how the Lord chose members of His Elect when the Scriptures were not available to them.
I know that Jesus needs to send The Comforter to dwell within the Elect - but is it possible for such a person (whether in the dark ages or today) to be a member of the Elect without studying the Scriptures with God Judging them in this Age.
George.
Kat:
Hi George,
Well the Scriptures are a tremendous (if not vital) help that's for sure, and I can't help but think God would have provided some kind of way that those He has chosen to have access to the New Testament. I mean there are only a few He is choosing out of the world and I can see how those few could have been put in 'special' circumstances that they would have some way to read.
So I am thinking that there is a need to have some degree of knowledge of Scripture in order to have a unity in understanding among the elect. Even in the dark ages, when most may have been illiterate, the Scripture were read in the churches, I would think that God, by the Holy Spirit, could have uses what was available and taught them whatever He wanted.
It is interesting that we really don't have any 'known' record of the elect throughout the centuries. But one thing is clear to me, that by having the Holy Spirit indwelling God would have ways to be able to teach them any and everything an elect would need to know.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
John 14:26 But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
Joel:
Romans 10 comes to mind, and especially verses 12-15. & 17
12-For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek:
For the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
13-For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
14-How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
15-And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
17-So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
Joel
octoberose:
I was considering the same thing as Indiana Bob. How many hundreds of years were the Catholic church the only ones with scripture? And if it was translated into anything other than Latin it was a crime, punishable by death.
How many early Christ followers never saw scripture- if they were very fortunate they were read a letter from Paul or Peter somewhere. If they went to the synagogue they could read (OT) scripture but could they go in or even read it if they were not Jewish?
And even now, how many cultures have no access to Bibles or if they are fortunate and led by God they have one hidden that they read and try to understand with the leading of the Holy Spirit? I guess what I am saying is that the book form of the Word of God is not everything. But the Word of God is everything.
The greatest thing I struggle with is just living in this world and pursuing the things in it. I'm talking about decorating the house, buying things, cooking, reading novels, surfing the internet. These things are either worldly or they are not if they are done to the glory of God. But others who live much simpler lives and live without benefit of my Concordant Literal, they live in the grace of God every day and His leading; perhaps they don't have the knowledge we have but they have the love of God in them and pursue Him with everything.
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