Heb. 10:26-31

[dave]

I have a friend who is troubled about not being forgiven for sinning, being unforgivable sin(s) and brought these verses forward and I myself am now troubled I can not clearly explain. So I could use some help.
Heb 10:26  For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
Heb 10:27  But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
Heb 10:28  He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
Heb 10:29  Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
Heb 10:30  For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
Heb 10:31  It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

Thanks

[Ian 155]

I was told once that the "unforgivable" sin, was Knowing the truth in your spirit, and then doing/confessing contrary, was blasphemy against Gods Spirit.

Jesus said "forgive them they know not what they do"

Not knowing is forgivable ...

however

Joh 9:41  Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth.

This needs to be repented of, that is ...the "claiming to know"

my thoughts

[Kat]

Here's an email.

http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,7848.0.html -------

In Heb. 10:26-31 please give your insight on what the Hebrew author is conveying towards/about the "willful sinner".

vs. 26 "...there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins"
vs. 27 "but a certain terrifying/fearful (o'-meg-ah = finality) expectation of judgment (kree'-sis = justice - accusation, condemnation, damnation,judgment), and the fury of a fire (poor = lightning) which will consume/devour (es-thee'-o = to eat) the adversaries." (emphasis mine)
vs. 29 "of how much sorer punishment..."

Thanks- Chuck

"If Jesus had preached the same message that ministers preach today, He would never have been crucified." — Leonard Ravenhill


Dear Chuck:  I am going to have to do a bit of "interpretation" on this one, as the words themselves are not precise enough.  "Willfully" in the King James means "voluntarily."  It is like a "freewill" offering in the Old Testament which meant nothing more than an offering given "voluntarily"--it was not demanded.

When one sins willfully or voluntarily, it means that he has lost his conscience about those particular sins. He feels no guilt nor shame for committing them.  We all sin, but sin is not to "reign" over us, as Paul admonishes.  When we sin, we should recognize it as sin, and feel shame, and repent, and go on. Once we feel no guilt nor shame, there only remains "judgment" which will assuredly remove (through fiery trials and purging) these "adversaries" that plague the human race. Hope that helps.

God be with you,
Ray

[Nathan]

Here's a response from Ray on the "unpardonable sin"

http://bible-truths.com/unpardon.html

Dear Kevin:

Thank you for your email and comments. Part of the reason you feel so bad about your sinful condition is because of the false teachings you undoubtedly received as a youngster.

The Bible speaks of the "foolishness of youth," so it should not be surprising that as youths we all have done stupid and foolish things--God expects it.  However, when God reveals Truth to us, those feelings of guilt are designed to TURN US AROUND and go a different direction.  A guilty conscience is one of the worst things we can carry around with us.

Many people speak of the "UNpardonable sin" as thought the Scriptures actually spoke of such a thing. They DO NOT! There is no such thing as an "unpardonable sin" in the Bible.

Well, then, what about Matt. 12:-31-32? Let's read it in a proper translation:

    "Therefore I am saying to you, Every sin and blasphemy shall be pardoned men, yet the blasphemy of the spirit shall not be pardoned."

It certainly SOUNDS like the blasphemy of God's spirit is an unpardonable sin, doesn't it? Let's continue reading:

    "And whosoever may be saying a word against the Son of Man, it will be pardoned him, yet whoever may be saying against the holy spirit, it shall not be pardoned him, [ever? continue reading...] neither in THIS EON [age] nor in that [age] which is IMPENDING."

Now then, does it really say this sin is UNPARDONABLE?  It is only unpardonable "in this age" and also "in the age to come [the impending age]." So it doesn't say it will NEVER be pardoned--only in this and the coming age will it NOT be pardoned.

What about the age AFTER the coming age?  Ah, there is the answer. We live in what the Bible calls "this present wicked age." But the age to come is the ONE THOUSAND year reign of Christ in His kingdom on this earth. The sin against the holy spirit will not be pardoned in either of these two ages. When then? The age AFTER these two ages. After the one thousand year reign of Christ comes the white throne judgment in which ALL the unbelievers of the world will be judged. Judging has to do with setting things RIGHT, not condemning to some fabled hellhole of eternal torture in fire.

In Rev. 20 and 21 we read of God's purging lake of fire which will deal with all unbelievers and their sins. There will be many there who have blasphemed the holy spirit. But in that age of judging and setting right, even they will receive pardon and salvation. It is God's will and desire to save ALL MANKIND (I Tim. 2:4). And God will certain fulfill ALL THAT HE HAS PURPOSED (Isaiah 46:10-11).

But the main thing I would tell you, Kevin, is that if you FEAR that you might have committed this sin, it is actually evidence THAT YOU HAVE NOT committed this sin. Those who blaspheme the holy spirit HAVE NO CONSCIENCE about their sin and therefore don't even care. Since you care and are concerned it is proof that God has given you a heart that wants to do right. So follow God's leadings in your life and these feelings of guilt will leave you.

In the near future I will have a paper on the Lake of Fire posted on my site explaining these verses in Revelation that the world of Christendom have perverted to make it appear that God is going to torture most of His children in fire for all eternity. Nothing could be further from the truth.

May God be with you!

Sincerely,

Ray