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42 favorite Ray quotes
John from Kentucky:
--- Quote from: Farlsborough on December 05, 2014, 01:44:21 PM ---It's creat-ING, not creat-ED! If Adam was created in God's image, why oh why did he sin?!
Go through the door, confess with your mouth, call on the name of the Lord, enter by the narrow gate... What IS all this stuff?! What is it?! Well, it's all the same thing. It's all one.
"Oh that? It's a gift from my wife. Have I ever used it? Hell no!"
This last one - the comparison of faith as a gift that we must use, like a treadmill - was not only funny but very memorable and very useful to me, both in terms of remembering the concept and explaining to others. I look forward to thanking Ray for this and all the other stuff one day.
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I highlighted your above quote from Ray, where you have Ray saying, "Hell no!".
That didn't sound right to me. Ray never gave me the impression that he engaged in casual profanity, especially in scriptural teaching mode.
I was not a close associate of Ray. I talked to him a few times at the 2009 conference and had dinner at his home on that Sunday. I've talked to him several times over the telephone, and I've listened to his audios and videos.
But I do not remember him cussing. Maybe his wife or Dennis might say otherwise since they knew him well. Maybe someone else can remember a time Ray cussed. But I didn't see that problem in him.
Below I've attached a quote from the bible study about Saved by Grace through Faith, where Ray mentioned the gift of an exercise bike. Now unless someone cleaned up the transcript, I do not see where he cussed.
Just saying, since Ray is not here to defend himself, that casual cussing didn't seem like Ray.
Suppose my wife buys me a gift for my birthday. It’s a gift, it’s not something you have to do or work for. It’s a gift, it’s free no strings attached, it’s a free gift. So what is this free gift? It’s a Nordic Track or a exercise bike or whatever. Well thank you for the gift, does it mean I have to use it (chuckle). I’d just stick it in the corner and it’ll be there for 5 years. When people come over and say, ‘what’s that.’ I’d say, it’s a gift. They would say, ‘have you ever used it?’ I’d say, oh no, I don’t use it, I just look at it. It’s a wonderful gift, my wife is so sweet, she bought me that gift. But no, I don’t use it.
Dennis Vogel:
When it comes to cussing, Ray would never intentionally be offensive. But he could have said "Hell no!" to be emphatic and drive a point home. Or even make a joke. Ray saying "Hell no" is not impossible.
When just the two of us talked we both knew language would not offend either of us and the conversations could get colorful.
rick:
There is not one single Scripture in the entirety of the Bible that commands, suggests, or hints that anyone should be giving these two-faced, lying, deceiving, hypercritical, widow robbing, worldly, materialistic, social climbing, vain, egotistical, morally bankrupt heretics, blasphemers, false prophets, scam artists, and religious charlatans, a single penny in the name of firstfruits, secondfruits, or any other kind of seed offering or money making scam!
Extol:
Great addition, Rick!
JFK, Ray did say that in his Bible study "Saved by Grace Through Faith."
Suppose my wife buys me a gift for my birthday. It’s a gift, it’s not something you have to do or work for. It’s a gift, it’s free no strings attached, it’s a free gift. So what is this free gift? It’s a Nordic Track or a exercise bike or whatever. Well thank you for the gift, does it mean I have to use it (chuckle). I’d just stick it in the corner and it’ll be there for 5 years. When people come over and say, ‘what’s that.’ I’d say, it’s a gift. They would say, ‘have you ever used it?’ I’d say, oh no, I don’t use it, I just look at it. It’s a wonderful gift, my wife is so sweet, she bought me that gift. But no, I don’t use it.
Where the transcript says "oh no" above, Ray actually said "Hell no," but then quickly said "I mean No!" and people laughed. I found it more amusing than offensive, as did, apparently, the others at the study.
John from Kentucky:
O.K. Jesse, I believe you and Dennis. I just never remember him personally using the word.
On the internet, some have referred to him as Hell Ray Smith because of his opposition to the teaching of eternal punishment. But I don't think they meant it in a nice way. ;D
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