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lilitalienboi16:
Hi all,
Thank you for bringing my attention to these other avenues for compensation. I heard of them in passing very briefly and forgot the moment after about these methods. I did not hear good things about them by the person who was informing myself and other students, that person being a financial adviser at the school who handles student payment plans and federal loans. That being said, I am not at all closed to the idea. I am open to whatever God will's. I will look further into these. I haven't personally yet looked at the links that were provided, merely responding to let everyone know I am aware and grateful for the reminder of them.
AwesomeSaviour, Your name is dean correct? I'm terribly sorry I don't want to get it wrong! I know we've had conversations before. As for carrying a weapon, I could never do such a thing. I want to trust God fully and turning to a weapon for my own protection would show my lack of faith in Him to provide and protect. I turn to these verses which give me assurance to the trust I have placed, and presumed, God with.
Romans 12:19 "Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord."
Matthew 10:16 "Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves."
Rom 12:9-21 "Let love be without hypocrisy. Abhor what is evil. Cling to what is good. Be kindly affectionate to one another with brotherly love, in honor giving preference to one another; not lagging in diligence, fervent in spirit, serving the Lord; rejoicing in hope, patient in tribulation, continuing steadfastly in prayer; distributing to the needs of the saints, given to hospitality. Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse. Rejoice with those who rejoice, and weep with those who weep. Be of the same mind toward one another. Do not set your mind on high things, but associate with the humble. Do not be wise in your own opinion. Repay no one evil for evil. Have regard for good things in the sight of all men. If it is possible, as much as depends on you, live peaceably with all men. Beloved, do not avenge yourselves, but rather give place to wrath; for it is written, "Vengeance is Mine, I will repay," says the Lord. Therefore "If your enemy is hungry, feed him; If he is thirsty, give him a drink; For in so doing you will heap coals of fire on his head." Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good."
I do agree that time in the military would allow me to be a great witness to those around me but God is not interested at this moment in saving the world. He is working with a few chosen so I don't feel there is any need to witness or go out of my way to be a witness. There were very few reasons for me to ever consider the military and as I was leaning more towards loans, I am even more so now due to the great wisdom everyone has shared with me. I am so very thankful for it all.
John, you are right. The apostles and Christ never turned to the systems of this world when they needed money.
I still have time to think about the matter and will continue to pray on it. I appreciate everyones contribution, please don't hesitate to provide more input or advice. I am taking it all in. This is one of those "Crossroad" moments in my life so I want to make the right decision by the grace of God.
Thank you again everyone and God bless,
Alex
AwesomeSavior:
JFK:
I'm not troubled about anything I have quoted from the Lord. Nice attempt at trying to displace your own troubled-ness onto me, though. :)
I will leave you all with a final thought about gun ownership. I'm sure you are aware of what happened in Ferguson, Missouri, and the resulting rioting in that city and others after the grand jury verdict was reached. It's my firm belief that this is just the beginning of the anarchy that the Lord is going to cause to happen in this now "God-forsaken" nation. Ray hinted about this very thing in his "In The Day Of The Great Slaughter…" paper, where he believed the 9/11 situation was not a "general" catastrophic happening, but a very specific happening unlike anything before it. Then 7 years after 9-11, the so called Great Recession began, which affected even more people personally than 9-11. As this nation becomes more and more like Sodom & Gomorrah, as Ray also said, there becomes more wrong with America than right.
What lies ahead for the United States in general? I have my own suspicions, and I am making necessary preparations for myself and my family in the chance that the Lord is going to cause more upheaval across this land.
Alex… I understand :) Take care.
Kat:
Hi AwesomeSavior,
Mat 26:52 But Jesus said to him, “Put your sword in its place, for all who take the sword will perish by the sword.
Concerning the time we live in, do not be caught up in the mass histeria of thinking there is coming great tribulation at the end of the age.
Mat 24:36 But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only
v. 37 But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.
v. 38 For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark,
v. 39 and did not know until the flood came and took them all away, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.
If you're thinking about Matt 24 that it says the great tribulation is coming and without it being shortened no flesh would be saved alive, it is my opinion that is speaking of the destruction of Jerusalem in 70AD.
Mat 24:21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be.
v. 22 And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect’s sake those days will be shortened.
You can see that the diciples asked 2 questions at the beginning of the chapter and Christ answered those questions one after the other, first about the destruction of the temple and then starting in verse 29 when the end of the age would come.
Alex, you are doing the right thing by weighing all your options. Have you ever considered other aspects of the medical field besides being an doctor? Wherever you go and whatever you do will be where you are meant to be/do and the experience that God wants you to have. I do pray for you and know hope that God gives you confidence in your final decision.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
Extol:
--- Quote from: AwesomeSavior on December 10, 2014, 10:24:11 PM ---Luke 11:21-22: "When a strong man armed keepeth his palace, his goods are in
peace: But when a stronger than he shall come upon him, and overcome him, he taketh from him
all his armour wherein he trusted, and divideth his spoils."
According to Jesus...Peace in a man's palace or home is the result of being armed, not disarmed. I wonder if Jesus knew what He was talking about?
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Dean,
Not to play Christian theologian here, but...context, context, context! ;)
Luke 11:14-26 (New International Version)--
14 Jesus was driving out a demon that was mute. When the demon left, the man who had been mute spoke, and the crowd was amazed. 15 But some of them said, “By Beelzebul, the prince of demons, he is driving out demons.” 16 Others tested him by asking for a sign from heaven.
17 Jesus knew their thoughts and said to them: “Any kingdom divided against itself will be ruined, and a house divided against itself will fall. 18 If Satan is divided against himself, how can his kingdom stand? I say this because you claim that I drive out demons by Beelzebul. 19 Now if I drive out demons by Beelzebul, by whom do your followers drive them out? So then, they will be your judges. 20 But if I drive out demons by the finger of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.
21 “When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house, his possessions are safe. 22 But when someone stronger attacks and overpowers him, he takes away the armor in which the man trusted and divides up his plunder.
23 “Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters.
24 “When an impure spirit comes out of a person, it goes through arid places seeking rest and does not find it. Then it says, ‘I will return to the house I left.’ 25 When it arrives, it finds the house swept clean and put in order. 26 Then it goes and takes seven other spirits more wicked than itself, and they go in and live there. And the final condition of that person is worse than the first.”
Jesus is talking about demons and unclean spirits inhabiting a person. Wouldn't it be strange if, in the middle of his teaching, he interjected two sentences about a man guarding his physical house with physical weapons and armor? I think He was talking about a different kind of armor...
10 Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. 11 Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes. 12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. 13 Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. 14 Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, 15 and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. 16 In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. 17 Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.
Ephesians 6:10-17.
Rene:
--- Quote from: John from Kentucky on December 10, 2014, 08:51:43 PM ---
I have read that some States will pay for a medical education if upon graduation the recipient agrees to work as a doctor in the poor or rural regions of a State. Have you looked into such programs?
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--- Quote from: Dave in Tenn on December 10, 2014, 10:05:12 PM ---
Just a quick google result--may or may not apply.
http://nhsc.hrsa.gov/loanrepayment/
http://www.usnews.com/education/blogs/medical-school-admissions-doctor/2012/02/20/explore-new-options-to-repay-medical-school-loans
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Alex,
I agree with JFK and Dave, and think this may be a wonderful option to pursue instead of joining the military for financial help.
Here is a scripture that came to mind when I was reading your comments. I mean no offense, and hope you understand the spirit behind this scripture, and know that I share it out of love. :)
Heb 12:14 - "Peace be pursuing with all, and the obtaining of holiness,—without which no one shall see the Lord:
vs 16 - "Lest there be any fornicator or profane person like Esau,—who, for the sake of one meal, yielded up his own firstborn rights.
René
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