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Gina:
Yes, but what you didn't know is that Joel shed a fake tear over it.

But seriously - hopefully, God will lead her to Ray's tithing paper or the truth regardless, if He hasn't already. 

Not to change the subject but I see there is a Spanish translation of the LOF series now on the home page.  That was a lot of work.  I'm glad it'll reach and bless many Spanish-speaking brothers and sisters.

indianabob:
Hi Dennis,
Your comment brought to mind a quote from one of the popular tithing preachers that is designed to tug at the strings of a person's heart and purse.

"God doesn't need us to give Him our money. He owns everything. Tithing is God's way to grow Christians."

"You can sing all you want about how you love Jesus, you can have crocodile tears in your eyes, but the consecration that doesn't reach your purse has not reached your heart." Adrian Rogers.

Seems that we are mostly susceptible to guilt feelings when it comes to feeding the ministry of some preachers when it should be feelings of love and appreciation for the gift of grace and understanding the true plan of God.

I-bob




--- Quote from: Dennis Vogel on December 23, 2014, 02:53:12 PM ---Somewhere there is an email to Ray from someone who use to work in Joel Osteen's mail room.

She had some problems and was not able to pay her 10% tithe and was fired.

--- End quote ---

Dennis Vogel:
As Ray liked to say "It's not just about the money - IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MONEY!"

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