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indianabob:
1Co 15:12  Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?
1Co 15:13  But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:
1Co 15:14  And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.
1Co 15:15  Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.
1Co 15:16  For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:
1Co 15:17  And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.

1Co 15:18  Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished.

1Co 15:19  If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.
1Co 15:20  But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
1Co 15:21  For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
1Co 15:22  For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
1Co 15:23  But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

Kat:

Hi Bob,

Here's a couple more passages that relate to that verse you pointed out.

1Thess 4:13  But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope.
v. 14  For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus.
v. 15  For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep.

Rev 14:12  Here is the patience of the saints; here are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.
v. 13  Then I heard a voice from heaven saying to me, "Write: 'Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on.' " "Yes," says the Spirit, "that they may rest from their labors, and their works follow them."

John 5:25  Most assuredly, I say to you, the hour is coming, and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God; and those who hear will live.

John 5:28  Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice
v. 29  and come forth— those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation.

Just thought this might add more to what you are saying.

mercy, peace and love
Kat

lilitalienboi16:

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--- Quote from: lilitalienboi16 on January 21, 2015, 12:06:27 AM ---Sigh... but how long oh Lord?!
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Hi Alex,

Well Christ did give us a parable concerning when He would return, that I find very interesting.

Mat 24:30  Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
v. 31  And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
v. 32  "Now learn this parable from the fig tree: When its branch has already become tender and puts forth leaves, you know that summer is near.
v. 33  So you also, when you see all these things, know that it is near—at the doors!

Mark 13:26  Then they will see the Son of Man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.
v. 27  And then He will send His angels, and gather together His elect from the four winds, from the farthest part of earth to the farthest part of heaven.
v. 28  "Now learn this parable from the fig tree: When its branch has already become tender, and puts forth leaves, you know that summer is near.
v. 29  So you also, when you see these things happening, know that it is near—at the doors!

Luke 21:25  "And there will be signs in the sun, in the moon, and in the stars; and on the earth distress of nations, with perplexity, the sea and the waves roaring;
v. 26  men's hearts failing them from fear and the expectation of those things which are coming on the earth, for the powers of the heavens will be shaken.
v. 27  Then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
v. 28  Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near."
v. 29  Then He spoke to them a parable: "Look at the fig tree, and all the trees.
v. 30  When they are already budding, you see and know for yourselves that summer is now near.
v. 31  So you also, when you see these things happening, know that the kingdom of God is near.
v. 32  Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all things take place.

So He gives us a parable from the fig tree... that's what we have to use to find the symbolism. So what could the symbols be representing? Could the fig tree be the kingdom of God?

Mat 13:31  Another parable He put forth to them, saying: "The kingdom of heaven is like a mustard seed, which a man took and sowed in his field,
v. 32  which indeed is the least of all the seeds; but when it is grown it is greater than the herbs and becomes a tree, so that the birds of the air come and nest in its branches."

Maybe in this case the branch is Christ... from which the "leaves" are put forth?

Rev 22:2  In the middle of its street, and on either side of the river, was the tree of life, which bore twelve fruits, each tree yielding its fruit every month. The leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

Well that's just what I've looked at about this...

mercy, peace and love
Kat

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Always very interesting Kat. Though in one parable Christ refers to us as being the branches and himself the vine though I suppose here we are talking about a fig tree and not a vine?

Kat:
Hi Alex, that's the thing about parables, the symbols do not necessarily carry over from one to the other, or it would not be such a mystery.

There are many symbols for Christ in the Scripture, here's a few.

John 15:1  "I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser

1Peter 2:7  So the honor is for you who believe, but for those who do not believe, "The Stone that the builders rejected has become the Cornerstone,"
v. 8  and "A Stone of stumbling, and a Rock of offense." They stumble because they disobey the Word, as they were destined to do.

Eph 2:20  having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief Cornerstone,

Rev 5:5  And one of the elders said to me, "Weep no more; behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has conquered, so that he can open the scroll and its seven seals."

Luke 1:69  and has raised up a Horn of salvation for us in the house of His servant David,

Gal 3:19  What purpose then does the law serve? It was added because of transgressions, till the Seed should come to whom the promise was made;

John 10:9  I am the Door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture. 

John 6:35  And Jesus said to them, "I am the Bread of life. He who comes to Me shall never hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst.

Zec 3:8  Hear now, O Joshua the high priest, you and your friends who sit before you, for they are men who are a sign: behold, I will bring My servant the Branch.

Jer 23:5  Behold, the days come, says Jehovah, that I will raise to David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and act wisely, and shall do judgment and justice in the earth.

These last 2 you will find interesting.

mercy, peace and love
Kat

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