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Kingdom of God - of the heavens
Mike Gagne:
Kat you have it right! Even if it were possible we should not be deceived on this....
lurquer:
--- Quote from: John from Kentucky on February 09, 2015, 08:06:16 PM ---
We do not know for sure if there will be sex in the age to come; Scriptures are not definite either way.
I know some of you think there is one Scripture that says no sex after the Resurrection. However, you make the common mistake of using only one Scripture and not closely reading the words. Jesus said they would not marry after the age to come; He did not say that there would be no sex :-[.
Ray did an excellent study on marriage in which he showed that having sex is not a requirement to validate a marriage. Please read Ray's article carefully if you want to increase your Scriptural knowledge on the subject of marriage.
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I know I was advocating some of this early on in the thread, but, again--I was speaking about those who had gone alive into the next age, not the resurrected.. Nevertheless, I have to agree with Kat and Alex in principle here that that Age is NOT for continuing the human race, nor would death have any purpose anymore, so I don't see any reason for either to exist. Indeed, as I argued initially, there may not be any clear scripture to support this specifically, but I do think the sense of all of scripture as a whole leads us to this conclusion (and I hope it does).
So if there is no procreation, and no marriage, then there is necessarily no sex. Why would there be? Alex pointed out some great scripture to support that, why do you dispute it?
As for your use of Ray's talks on marriage to support your ideas--I don't think so. I've listened to those audios a number of times, in fact I emailed Ray to ask certain questions about his ideas on marriage (he did not respond--he was sick and very busy), but they do not support any idea of sex outside of marriage. But I must say , I disagree with Ray on his broad definition of what it meant to "be married". You cannot be married and not have had sex...Because when a man has sex with a woman, he has married her. That is the correct, biblical definition of marriage, that the church DOES NOT GET. Plain and simple.
Sex is really unnecessary (in the next age), John. Paul said so, Jesus said so (and demonstrated it). It was only necessary now in order to continue the species...to grow God's family. Once the last child is born, we will no longer need it. You say, "yea, but what if we want it! It's not dirty or sinful!". My answer to that is, "you won't want it".
Try to imagine something no longer coming into your mind. It will happen.
"For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former things shall not be remembered, nor come into mind."
Mike Gagne:
Maybe I should state that after each one has gone through the lake of fire then there will be no need for sex! When God is all in all it will not be needed. And anyone who thinks there will be sex after this I question if they are 😊
Joel:
I will ask this question, does there have to be sex involved in order for God to have son's, and daughters?
1st John 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
We are now the sons of God in this life time, those that die without Christ (the anointing) will in the next age become sons, and daughters of God, after the lake of fire.
We are born in sin, and shaped in iniquity. How does that square with the idea that there is going to be fleshly reproduction going in the next righteous age.
I don't see the bride of Christ as being anything physical.
This scripture also came to mind.
Matthew 1:24-25 Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife. And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.
Joel
John from Kentucky:
I do not know if there will be sexual relations in the age to come among spirit beings. Maybe so. Maybe not.
The reason I do not know? The Scriptures do not say. The two witnesses, the two anointed ones, who stand by the Lord of the whole earth (Zech 4:14), do not tell us.
But I do know one thing. Those who say that there is no sex in the age to come are unlearned and ignorant of the Scriptures. I have read your comments. You are just giving your personal opinions. You do not know. You do not have at least two Scriptures to back up your opinions. You confuse personal opinion with Scriptural truth.
Like the great false church through the ages, you have killed the two witnesses and let their dead bodies lie in the streets of Jerusalem.
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