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The Marriage Vow
lurquer:
--- Quote from: Gina on February 15, 2015, 11:02:08 AM ---Neo:
--- Quote ---(When a man “joins” himself to a harlot, that is an unholy marriage, and un-covenanted .)
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How could a marriage (a covenant) be UNcovenanted?
Your circuitry is clearly wired wrong. A sexual act with a prostitute does not a marriage/covenant make. It is adultery. Plain and simple. That's what God and Paul and Jesus called adultery.
God said to COME OUT OF HER! God did not say, DIVORCE HER!
Why? Because they are NOT married!
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I think all of your questions could be answered if you'd only actually read what I wrote...and pay attention to all the words.
As for your next post, all of that was gone over in another thread, which was locked because "people believe what they want to believe and disregard the rest." You, of course, are free to do the same, sister.
wat:
--- Quote from: Neo on February 15, 2015, 10:34:06 AM --- What I tried to say was, first, “marriage” was a physical act between a man and a woman (possible because of the unique creation of their anatomy) which has lifelong, permanent consequences. They become “one flesh”. Paul demonstrated how this could be done with a harlot. This can’t be undone. BUT, the covenant of marriage, the ‘institution’ if you will (I hate that word), when legitimate, is ALSO called “marriage”. Both of these are a mystery. Both are initiated by a sexual union. Leave that part out and we’re not even talking about the same thing. I’ve long studied this subject and come to at least this conclusion: To define a marriage so as to exclude the sexual nature of it truly eliminates any real meaning of marriage. It is a UNIQUE human relationship, instituted, and legitimized by God (NOT the state), and that nature of it IS what makes it unique. If you don’t at least agree with that, then we just don’t share the same logic circuitry, and there’s really no point in continuing this conversation.
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Neo, you're view is very complicated. No wonder you keep saying if only everyone would actually read your posts they would understand. I think almost everybody has read your posts and they still don't understand. You speak of two marriages, both called marriage, that are initiated by sexual union. But only consensual sex. I think Occam's Razor can be applied here, the simplest answer is correct.
I agree with your last sentence in my quote. There's no point in continuing this conversation. Like Gina, I'm settled on this matter. Arguing for another 30 posts wouldn't change anyone's mind.
Gina:
--- Quote from: Neo on February 15, 2015, 11:32:09 AM ---
--- Quote from: Gina on February 15, 2015, 11:02:08 AM ---Neo:
--- Quote ---(When a man “joins” himself to a harlot, that is an unholy marriage, and un-covenanted .)
--- End quote ---
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How could a marriage (a covenant) be UNcovenanted?
Your circuitry is clearly wired wrong. A sexual act with a prostitute does not a marriage/covenant make. It is adultery. Plain and simple. That's what God and Paul and Jesus called adultery.
God said to COME OUT OF HER! God did not say, DIVORCE HER!
Why? Because they are NOT married!
--- End quote ---
I think all of your questions could be answered if you'd only actually read what I wrote...and pay attention to all the words.
As for your next post, all of that was gone over in another thread, which was locked because "people believe what they want to believe and disregard the rest." You, of course, are free to do the same, sister.
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I don't have any questions. I'm sorry but the desire to read all of what you wrote just isn't there for me personally since I'm quite satisfied with the wisdom I have from above. It might not be the answers you're looking for, but that's not my problem. Eve had everything she needed but a snake convinced her it wasn't enough. You're trying to convince me that the wisdom I've received from above isn't enough. I need more. No, I don't, thank you very much.
Godliness with contentment is great gain. God has convinced me that I shall not want. I am content to be betrothed to the One who is unlike the gentiles who love to lord it over others.
(I'm STARVING. I have to go get breakie.)
Raisin, Rice and Rye... bye-bye!
Mike Gagne:
--- Quote from: Gina on February 15, 2015, 11:16:26 AM ---Neo:
--- Quote --- Also, you'd have seen what actually began this discussion in the first place was another member here adamantly insisting that we "may still have sex in the Kingdom"... (even if it was "outside of marriage").
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You're right, there will not be sex in that age and resurrection of the ELECT:
Luke 20:35-36
but THOSE WHO ARE CONSIDERED W-O-R-T-H-Y to attain to THAT AGE and to THE resurrection from the dead neither marry nor are given in marriage, for they cannot even die anymore, because they are like angels, and are sons of God [not b-a-s-t-a-r-d-s, they didn't climb up some other way, they have their "wedding garments," they are NOT like the foolish virgins who took their lamps and no oil with them], being sons of THE resurrection.
As for the resurrection of the others, who knows? I don't! I could care less! The elect have their minds on the things of the spirit. But, those who have their minds on the flesh, seek after those things pertaining to the flesh. Is that clear enoug
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. Amen to that Gina
Ricky:
I thought Adam and Eve were brought together by God spiritually, no vows, no wedding, no limo, and no Pagan stuff; Maybe we should be doing the same. Ricky
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