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Is your faith challenged when you hear about UFO’s
lilitalienboi16:
--- Quote from: Rick on February 26, 2015, 08:01:00 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dave in Tenn on February 26, 2015, 06:53:24 PM ---
--- Quote from: Rick on February 26, 2015, 04:16:06 PM ---
I believe the answers to the alien deception can be found in the book of Genesis.
Gen 6:4 The Nephilim were in the earth in those days, and also after that, when the sons of God came unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them: the same were the mighty men that were of old, the men of renown.
These Nephilim are not of the line of Adam and Eve but I do believe these ancient people and their civilization can explain the alien phenomenon. ;)
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You assume these Nephilim (giants, great men) were not of the line of Adam and Eve? Why do you assume that? Because they are not in the 'geneology' presented in scripture? Do you have any idea how many people are left out of your OWN genealogy if you trace only back through your paternal line?
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Hi Dave,
we can all trace our accessory back to Noah and his sons
Gen 6:7 And Jehovah said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the ground; both man, and beast, and creeping things, and birds of the heavens; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
Gen 6:13 And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.
Gen 9:1 And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.
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Rick,
You know the flood was not global right? In psalm we are told that through creation the water's were given bounderies so they could never cover the earth like they did in Genesis prior to noah's flood.
Psalm 104:5 Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever.
Psalm 104:6 Thou coveredst it with the deep as with a garment: the waters stood above the mountains.
Psalm 104:7 At thy rebuke they fled; at the voice of thy thunder they hasted away.
Psalm 104:8 They go up by the mountains; they go down by the valleys unto the place which thou hast founded for them.
Psalm 104:9 You set a boundary they cannot cross; never again will they cover the earth.
Genesis 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
The earth at this point is entirely covered over with water.
Genesis 1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
Genesis 1:4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
Genesis 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
Genesis 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
Genesis 1:7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
Genesis 1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
Genesis 1:9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
Now Land is coming up out of the sea. The sea is no longer covering the entire face of the earth as it was previous and we are told in Psalm that God set up a boundery to provent this from ever happening again. Noah's flood therefor was not global as it came to pass long after the creation when God brought forth the land and set up a boundery so that the ocean could not cover the face of the earth again.
Noah and his son's replenished the LAND and not the whole world. God destroyed all flesh in the LAND and not the whole world.
In Christ,
Alex
P.S. NO we cannot "all" trace our lineage back to Noah and his sons. That was only physical isreal after the physical seed that could but the promise is no longer after the flesh. The covenant is a new one not according to the old.
rick:
Hi Alex,
Ray has taught that the flood was a regional flood but nonetheless God said He was going to destroyed all flesh from the earth which He God did.
lilitalienboi16:
--- Quote from: Rick on February 26, 2015, 08:29:56 PM ---Hi Alex,
Ray has taught that the flood was a regional flood but nonetheless God said He was going to destroyed all flesh from the earth which He God did.
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No Rick,
God did not say that. He destroyed all flesh in the land. You are misrepresenting that.
Kat:
Rick, at the 08 Nashville conference Ray spoke extensively on the flood and many aspects of it and one of those was that none of the nations of that part of the world show any disruption in there history during that period of time of the biblical flood.
Here is a email that mentions that as well.
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,8712.0.html --------------
Ray's response in red
I have a question regarding Humanity or Mankind after Noah’s Flood.
Are all the descendants from Noah and his family?
COMMENT: Do you mean is all humanity on earth today descendants from Noah and his family? No, I don't think so, as there were whole nations of people alive during the regional flood of Noah.
If not, is there any reference to descendants from Noah?
COMMENT: Yes, Genesis Chapter 10 gives a brief outline of their descendants.
If so, are these the ‘Godly Line’ which leads to Jesus Christ and Salvation?
COMMENT: Yes, Christ's genealogy goes back to Kind David, Abraham, and Noah's son S[he]M---S[e]M---SM---SM[ith].
See Luke 3:34-38.
God be with you,
Ray
octoberose:
I agree with Kat because of this_
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. (Ephesians 6:12).
There are so many things right here that we can't understand and can't see.
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