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lilitalienboi16:

--- Quote from: Kat on April 18, 2015, 07:44:15 AM ---
Alex, here is a Scripture that I don't believe has been mentioned.

Mat 19:4  And He answered and said, Have ye not read, that He who made them from the beginning made them male and female,
v. 5  and said, For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife; and the two shall become one flesh?
v. 6  So that they are no more two, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

Here Christ explains that God made humans as male and female, and v. 5 "on this account" (CLV), so He made us as such for the reason to be united/joined in marriage. But the key phrase is v. 6 "What therefore God hath joined together," so as Malachi had said God does "witness" the marriage ceremony. It seems their vow is spoken before human witness, but more importantly before God as a witness to it.

Mal 2:14  Yet you say, "For what reason?" Because the LORD has been witness Between you and the wife of your youth, With whom you have dealt treacherously; Yet she is your companion And your wife by covenant.

So I do believe in wedding ceremonies when God is called on to bless the marriage and the 'vows' are spoken God does hear, this becomes the marriage covenant. So "What therefore God hath joined together," in marriage is 'in God's eyes.'

mercy, peace and love
Kat

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Thank you Kat, very good addition!

God bless,
Alex

Dave in Tenn:
Maybe a (close) parallel to the phrase "married in the eyes of God" is "married according to God".  Why can't we just speak simply and say "married"?  There are and have been billions of people married who don't follow the Jewish or Christian or Western traditions.  Can I say they are not married "according to God" or "in the eyes of God"?  Aren't they just simply "married"?   

One of the strengths of Ray's article was the plain assertion that almost every culture on earth (no matter how primitive) has an "institution" of marriage.  Maybe this is part of what Paul meant in Romans 1.  People the world over know that men and women belong together.  The 'rules' concerning "marrying" and "being married" may vary, but the fact of man/woman and of an assumption of "vows" is constant.

I've read in the emails and sometimes on the forum people asking whether someone NOT married by a minister (or MARRIED by a minister) are 'real' marriages "in the eyes of God".  Why not just say the simple truth?  They are "marriages" and let the facts involved speak for themselves.

lilitalienboi16:

--- Quote from: Dave in Tenn on April 18, 2015, 04:30:21 PM ---Maybe a (close) parallel to the phrase "married in the eyes of God" is "married according to God".  Why can't we just speak simply and say "married"?  There are and have been billions of people married who don't follow the Jewish or Christian or Western traditions.  Can I say they are not married "according to God" or "in the eyes of God"?  Aren't they just simply "married"?   

One of the strengths of Ray's article was the plain assertion that almost every culture on earth (no matter how primitive) has an "institution" of marriage.  Maybe this is part of what Paul meant in Romans 1.  People the world over know that men and women belong together.  The 'rules' concerning "marrying" and "being married" may vary, but the fact of man/woman and of an assumption of "vows" is constant.

I've read in the emails and sometimes on the forum people asking whether someone NOT married by a minister (or MARRIED by a minister) are 'real' marriages "in the eyes of God".  Why not just say the simple truth?  They are "marriages" and let the facts involved speak for themselves.

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We're not all eloquent speakers, some more than others, but we do the best we can. I know for myself that words escape me all too often. Its frustrating. There are many area's of my understanding and speech that I would love to see improved. Even my obedience to God. I think one of the most important things is we strive to maintain the unity of the faith as the body of Christ. Edifying one another, uplifing others, rebuking some, etc...  I do believe, by the grace of God, we are doing that.

I'm pretty sure we'll get there Dave. In God's time. It's a long race but I am happy to have you all as my family to run it with. 

God bless,
Alex

indianabob:
Good advice brother Alex,

It is also important for me to realize that the race is not about being in a hurry to get to the finish line or to be first in line. It is all about finishing....
Run patiently putting one foot in front of the other, stumbling on occasion and the rising again to continue until the end, seeking God's aid for the strength to finish.

lurquer:
Dave in Tenn wrote:

--- Quote ---I'm going to leave the thread open for an unspecified period of time, but I will lock it soon enough...and I will not allow this 'discussion' to be brought up again.  I hope that is understood.
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Dave, it seems this "discussion" just keeps popping up like spring mushrooms...even among some here who claim to be "bored to tears" by it.  :'(

Just wondering--was this admonishment for me only or for everyone?

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