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rick:

--- Quote from: largeli on May 25, 2015, 11:54:08 PM ---The Lord is a warrior. He trains my hands for war.

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Hi Largeli,

Yes, Christ is a warrior indeed but let us never forget Christ is a righteous warrior unlike man is, huge difference . Also when God kills He also has power to resurrect but man has no power to resurrect even and ant.

One should never put Christ on the same level as man even though He was a man He was also the God man as in the Son of God, the first born of all creation.

Christ is from above we are from below, we are of the earth Christ is not. Amen brother, Christ has no sin in Him at all but warring man does, make no mistake about that. ;)

lareli:
"He trains my hands for war" did Christ say this or did man..



1 Sam 15

"Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants,"


Infants.

lareli:
Alex if you think a Hollywood portrayal of WWII is bad.. Just wait brother. God has promised much worse. Worse than ever has been or will ever be again.

lilitalienboi16:

--- Quote from: largeli on May 26, 2015, 01:10:31 PM ---"He trains my hands for war" did Christ say this or did man..



1 Sam 15

"Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants,"


Infants.

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Hi Largeli,

I think you are misguided if you are justifying war and killing.

In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established. No verse is at all becoming its own interpretation.

Matthew 5:43-45
43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

We are under a new covenent now. You can't use the old to justify things anymore. Its waxing old and ready to vanish away.

Galatians 3:23-25
23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

Galatians 4:1-5
1 Now I say, That the heir, as long as he is a child, differeth nothing from a servant, though he be lord of all;
2 But is under tutors and governors until the time appointed of the father.
3 Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements of the world:
4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.

Galatians 4:21-31
21 Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law?
22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
24 Which things are an allegory: for these are THE TWO COVENENTS; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth TO BONDAGE, which is Agar.
25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
27 For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.
28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.
29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.
31 So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.

Romans 7:5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
Romans 7:6 6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

The new covenent is far above the old. Your righteousness must exceed that of the pharisees to enter the kingdom of heaven. Paul was blameless as far as the rightoeusness that was in the law yet he called himself the worst sinner that ever was or ever will be. The only way to exceed the righteousness of the pharisees who kept the law outwardly is to be in Christ because Christ is the fullfillment of the law. The law was and is spiritual but the veil was over the eyes and so this could not be seen until the veil was torn.

Hebrews 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
Hebrews 8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

Romans 8: 1-6
1There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

The new covenent requires us to love ['AGAPE'] our enemies and feed them when they are hungry. We are to overcome evil with good. Turn the other cheek. Etc...

Romans 12:19-21
19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
20 Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.
21 Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.

Luke 6:26-35
26 Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets.
27 But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you,
28 Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.
29 And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloak forbid not to take thy coat also.
30 Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again.
31 And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.
32 For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them.
33 And if ye do good to them which do good to you, what thank have ye? for sinners also do even the same.
34 And if ye lend to them of whom ye hope to receive, what thank have ye? for sinners also lend to sinners, to receive as much again.
35 But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.

Matthew 22:36-40
36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Romans 13:10 Love [Gk: 'AGAPE'] worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love [GK: 'AGAPE'] is the fulfilling of the law.

Our warefare is no longer carnal, we are being trained in a spiritual battle fighting wickedness in high places. SPIRITUAL is our warfare.

2 Corinthians 10:3-6
3 For though we walk in the flesh, we do NOT war after the flesh:
4 (For the weapons of our warfare are NOT carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;)
5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;
6 And having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled.

Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

So only God who is the righteous judge is justified in killing because He also makes alive. Veangence is His and He will repay. As for you, follow Christ.

James 4:12 There is ONE lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another?

Deuteronomy 32:39 See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.

Genesis 18:25 That be far from thee to do after this manner, to slay the righteous with the wicked: and that the righteous should be as the wicked, that be far from thee: SHALL NOT THE JUDGE OF ALL THE EARTH DO RIGHT?

John 21:22 Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? follow thou me.
Luke 6:46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?

We fight daily the greatest battle ever fought by man. As ray said, being saved may very well be the hardest thing any human being does.

God bless,
Alex

lareli:
I'm not justifying war and killing. I hate war. I'm not the one who commanded people to slaughter infants. God commanded it. When stories came out about Isis (in the name of their god) slaughtering babies in Iraq this year I heard Christians say that no god would ever command something like that.. They're wrong.

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