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Nelson Boils:
Mman,that site is a difficult read,too many big words.
What causes cancer?So many people die from it,at least that is what the media tells us!
Would you suggest one not to do these "treatments" if diagnosed with cancer?
lurquer:
Well, Nelson, that paper I linked discusses what may or may not be the causes of (admittedly) a very nebulous symptomatic galaxy of diseases--AIDS. Very informative reading.
Many cancers are associated with the syndrome of "AIDS", but the causes of cancers themselves are not very well understood (obviously). We do see a huge increase, historically, of cancers in the western populations which previously were almost unheard of less than a hundred years ago. There's certainly much to be gleaned from a correlating study of our very unhealthy diets of processed foods and constant contact with toxic chemicals though. Many others have done much study on that if you're interested...
As far as your question about the 'traditional' cancer "treatments", no, I would certainly not recommend that to anyone, as I said, it's a fraud designed to extract money from frightened and sick people. So I'm against that. I believe Ray was against it too.
"Success of most chemotherapies is appalling... There is no scientific evidence for its ability to extend in any appreciable way the lives of patients suffering from the most common organic cancer... Chemotherapy for malignancies too advanced for surgery, which accounts for 80% of all cancers, is a scientific wasteland."
-- Dr. Uhlrich Abel
arion:
Leaving aside for a moment whether or not aids or any other malady is genetically engineered, [I have my own opinions on this being trained as an Army Nuclear, Biological, Chemical officer] there is an interesting scripture about sexual sins that we've all read.
1Co 6:18 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.
A couple of other versions;
Young's..... flee the whoredom; every sin--whatever a man may commit--is without the body, and he who is committing whoredom, against his own body doth sin.
Diaglott.... Flee you the fornication. All sins which if may do a man, outside of the body is; he but committing fornication against the own body sins.
Rot.... 1Co 6:18 Flee fornication! Every sin, whatsoever a man shall commit, is, outside his body, but, he that committeth fornication, bringeth sin into his own body.
Rotherham's is especially interesting the way this is translated. I'm sure the Lord considers fornication as sinning against him but Paul is inspired to write that one who sins sexually, sins against his own body as well. When I consider the explosion of venereal diseases of all sorts and how sickly people tend to be it does give one something to consider. Fornication can make you sick in more ways than one.
lilitalienboi16:
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1Co 6:18 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.
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Hi Arion,
I never really grasped that scripture, to me, sin is sin, what I don’t understand is the classification of sin, sins outside the body and sin inside the body.
What is the significant’s of the two opposites , inside and outside ?
I understand the body is the temple of God, I understand if I say I will do a certain thing is to make myself God unless I say if it’s the Lords will before I say what I will do.
Why would intoxication not be considered a sin within the body seeing where one must consume alcohol in excess ? The body is still the temple of God .
Do sins against ones own body keep them in the lake of fire longer than sins outside the body would ?
Does God make this distinction that all would be guilty? I cannot think of any other sin outside of sex/ fornication that has the greatest pull of all sin. :(
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Hey Rick,
I think it might have something to do with being joined to another and that you are no longer two but one flesh.
1 Cor 16:15-19
15 Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ? Shall I then take the members of Christ and make them members of a harlot? Certainly not! 16 Or do you not know that he who is joined to a harlot is one body with her? For “the two,” He says, “shall become one flesh.”[a] 17 But he who is joined to the Lord is one spirit with Him.
18 Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body. 19 Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own?
2 Corinthians 11:1-3
11 Oh, that you would bear with me in a little folly—and indeed you do bear with me. 2 For I am jealous for you with godly jealousy. For I have betrothed you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ. 3 But I fear, lest somehow, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, so your minds may be corrupted from the simplicity[a] that is in Christ.
It appears that we being the bride of Christ are to remain faithful to Him and remain a virgin bride until the day of the wedding and we are married. Only then can the marriage be consummated. If however, we take ourselves and be joined to another then we are committing adultery against Christ our Groom and the marriage can be annulled.
Revelation 19:5-9
5 Then a voice came from the throne, saying, “Praise our God, all you His servants and those who fear Him, both[a] small and great!”
6 And I heard, as it were, the voice of a great multitude, as the sound of many waters and as the sound of mighty thunderings, saying, “Alleluia! For the Lord God Omnipotent reigns! 7 Let us be glad and rejoice and give Him glory, for the marriage of the Lamb has come, and His wife has made herself ready.” 8 And to her it was granted to be arrayed in fine linen, clean and bright, for the fine linen is the righteous acts of the saints.
9 Then he said to me, “Write: ‘Blessed are those who are called to the marriage supper of the Lamb!’” And he said to me, “These are the true sayings of God.”
John 3:29
The bride belongs to the bridegroom. The friend who attends the bridegroom waits and listens for him, and is full of joy when he hears the bridegroom's voice. That joy is mine, and it is now complete.
It appears those that died not having attained the promise but having embraced it from a far off are the friends of the bridegroom while His church is the bride herself. That's us! Christ being the groom of course.
I know there are natural shadows of this spiritual reality in the old testatement as well. Remember Isreal's idoletry against God as she went whoring after other gods. So then God brought upon her swift judgement for her unfaithfulness. Jeremiah talks about this. See Ezekiel 16 as well.
Anyway, Hope this helps, maybe not too much but a little!
God bless,
Alex
Ian 155:
I agree that this scripture has nothing to do with "Morality" I'm not saying that literal adultery is a good occupation, I do not believe the rubbish spoken of in churches that Aids is a just punishment or the punishment either,
This scripture refers to the temple "body" it belongs to the Lord ex 20v5
Literally I have beaten myself up for many years ,as I was an adulterer (in the moral sense) and while going thru a place of repentance I was shown, Spiritually we get called out of "Her" that is, what God refers to as "the great Whore" Rev 18v4, Jeremiah 51v45
Most people have a type of spiritual Aids until they get called "out of her"We all have fornicated with her.(sinned)
Christ came to set us free from the lie... not only google but 99% of pastors and theologians speak lies.. fluently
be free
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