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A very good point concerning universal salvation

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Ian 155:

--- Quote from: repottinger on June 25, 2015, 05:09:52 PM ---Thanks a lot for the comments, Nelson; I definitely know what you mean about having "been there." If it wasn't for my having read writers like Ray on the subject, I certainly can't imagine my ever possibly figuring out the truth of the salvation of all by myself!
Randy

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 ;D   ;D  ...God does work in strange ways

Extol:
Hi Randy, 

I recommend listening to the teaching Rene mentioned, Does All Mean All? http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,2641.0.html

I remember clicking on this audio when it first came out in 2007, and I thought it would be Ray going through the Scriptures that use the word ALL to prove God will save ALL. But surprisingly, the answer is No, all does not always mean all. For example, Mark 1:5 says And there went out unto him all the land of Judaea, and they of Jerusalem, and were all baptized of him in the river of Jordan, confessing their sins. Obviously not every person went out, but it says the word all (same Greek word as used in the "salvation of all" passages.) Ray points out the Greek word for all (pas) can also mean "as many as..." :

Col 1:20  And through Him having made peace through the blood of His cross, it pleased the Father to reconcile all things to Himself through Him, whether the things on earth or the things in Heaven.

Okay what is the word in there that suggests He will save all? All - pas. He will save as many as. See here’s how a theologian commentary might go on that. “having made peace through the blood of His cross, it pleased the Father to reconcile ALL…” that’s the Greek word pas - as many as come to Him, accept Him, receive His sacrifice, etc., that’s how many, pas - all - as many as do what they have to do.

The point of the study is that even without the phrases that say ALL (1 Tim. 2:4, 4:10, etc.), the Scriptures still clearly teach that God will save all.
And thus, the verses that do say God will save all must mean every last person, in order to harmonize with the Scriptures that don't use the word all.

repottinger:
Absolutely, Ian--I couldn't agree more!
Randy

repottinger:
Thank you for the suggestion and the great explanation, Extol; the point of the article as described by you is exactly the way I remember it. As I think I mentioned earlier, I definitely have to go back and re-read it (as well as listen to the audio--I'm really not that big on doing that, but I'm sure that it would be very helpful in furthering my understanding).
Randy

Nelson Boils:
I remember telling one of my friends that Jesus will save the devil one day.He replied:"So one day I'm going to see the devil and say,so you the ******* that has been deceiving me all my life?"

I didn't even know how to respond to him,I chuckled a bit coz of how he put it.

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